Shadrach's Ex Battery and Rescued chickens thread.

Not that I'm aware of besides the fact that most hatcheries don't usually sell hatching eggs still.

I know that hatchery birds raised artificially can still go broody, but does raising them naturally make it more likely to happen and to be successful? I guess that's a better way to ask it
We got Buff Orpingtons from a hatchery several years ago, knowing nothing of the subject at hand. I think we got 6 of them and 8 or 12 Easter Eggers. We raised them together in a brooder (okay, our well house) to about 8 weeks old, then spent about another month integrating them with our established flock. The reason we waited so long was to make sure they looked like chickens and not baby birds, to protect them from our cats, before putting them outdoors with the older hens. So they were close to three months old before being around adult hens. Stay with me, I do have a point. Of these 6 Orps, at least 4 went broody shortly after going into lay, and all 4 successfully raised chicks. The following year, 4 of the remaining 5 did it again. The third year my remaining three tried to do it, so I culled them. I realize Orps aren't considered hatchery birds so maybe they don't belong in this discussion. If not I'll pay tax again. 😉
 
Once again, coming at this question as a biologist rather than a longtime chicken keeper, I doubt you can truly and completely "breed out" broodiness. That would entail actually eliminating the DNA sequences that are responsible for multiple hormones that induce broodiness and all the other genes that are responsibly for triggering them.

While I haven't researched this, I would bet that the selective breeding for less broodiness is just selecting for inhibitor genes, and all the broodiness genes are still there and can be activated if the conditions are right. The more inhibitor genes, the less likely that would be, but it could still happen. And... the inhibitor genes could be "bred" out" if the chickens went feral, since the original genes would all still be there.
We have kept probably several dozen EEs over the last 11 years and NEVER have had one go broody. Compare that to my earlier post that almost every one of our six BO's did ....
 
Going back a few pages there are a couple of pictures of thermal imaging. With the picture I posted was a link to a study. The study was about determining the stress level in hens by thermal imaging.
The stressor used was picking the hen up. Stress levels were reported as high.
I know people say my hen loves me and likes beinng picked up and cuddled.
Really? I've never met a hen that liked being picked up. Some get used to it but that doesn't mean they don't find it stressfull.
When a chicken decides that you make a fine perch is rather different. What also makes a difference is how one picks the hen up. Anything that confines a chickens wings is instant high stress. Not having their feet on a surface is instant stress as well
Yet, we are told that chickens make wonderful pets and love to be cuddled.
:rolleyes:
I'll leave you with that thought....
I am personally morally opposed to picking up a chicken, or practically any other animal, except when absolutely necessary. Think about it. When, in nature, does an animal get picked up, and in what circumstances? Only when a predator gets hold of it in order to eat it. In my opinion, picking up an animal is terrifying to the animal. It's different if an animal chooses to park on you, that's a gift. Otherwise, leave it where you find it - on the ground, where it can flee or hide if it so desires. My opinion.
 
Because they're not naturally raised, I assume. Most of mine come from hatcheries too
They're raised as naturally as they would be if I hatched them in an incubator, which is to say, not at at all naturally. The year my BOs hatched and raised 8 chicks between them (naturally), only 3 survived to adulthood. My cats didn't get any but the hawks did. The day-olds I buy virtually all survive.
 
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I am all caught up, 30 pages worth! Maybe more. Such a good read, this thread! :love
Tax:
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There is neither rooster nor hen in this image. It is a Christmas tree made of tires 'n tinsel, as displayed at my mechanic's. That's my '03 Jeep Liberty in the window. Also known as a money pit, lol. I got new tires on it today. New headlamps last week. And now it wants new tie rods. Which it will get, because it's my GirlChild's ride. Sigh. I've gone OT again. Here's tax on my tax, Rojo and the cockerels:
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This young hen is generally last to return to the coop. I've almost lost her a couple of times. The slid out ot the allotment run gate once and it was only by chance that I looked in the right direction in time to see her fluffy butt heading towards a thicket.
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are we looking at a tree-hugger in training? :D
 
Henry is devoting his time and energy to the hens that are laying. How does he know this? Is it by the colour of their combs? Is it their willingness to crouch for him? Something else?
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According to Barker et al 'What males want (& do not want)' - don't you wish you had a copy of this book :p : put it on your Christmas list perhaps? - "copulation and provision of sperm both have potential dangers and costs" e.g. exposure to competitors and predators, and stds (yes, lice can be considered sexually transmitted diseases in chickens since they hang round the vent), and more specifically,"roosters invest more time and transfer more sperm to females that are novel...or to females that display flashier and brighter combs [which] indicates greater egg-laying ability and better skills at incubating eggs and raising chicks successfully"aka the costly sperm hypothesis.
 

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