Shadrach's Ex Battery and Rescued chickens thread.

And a beautiful baby duck to :)
It's a call, it was nearly full grown in that pic she hasn't got much bigger. Her name is Little bit. 😊
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here it is "Second, hybridization between domesticated and wild populations is common in nature and thus could mislead the estimation of their genetic differences [32, 33]. Domesticated chickens have been affected by gene flow via hybridization with other RJFs and jungle fowl species over thousands of years [34, 35]. RJFs are widely distributed and could be assigned into five subspecies (G. g. spadiceus, G. g. murghi, G. g. jabouillei, G. g. gallus, and G. g. bankiva) ranging across South and Southeast Asia where they may have been hybridizing with village hens [36]. "
Wang et al. BMC Biology (2021) 19:118 https://doi.org/10.1186/s12915-021-01052-x

And this one,
Frantz, L.A.F., Bradley, D.G., Larson, G. et al. Animal domestication in the era of ancient genomics. Nat Rev Genet 21, 449–460 (2020), which I can't copy.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41576-020-0225-0

It's not quite what you're after, but I suspect they'd be hybridizing with each other if they were hybridizing with village (landrace) hens.

I'm also wondering what's the difference between your 'grand scale' and a species. It's still a long way from a legbar knowing it's legbar and wanting to hang out with other legbars as opposed to, say, a Lohman brown.

and this one which shows genetically that they interbred locally with RJF subspecies and other jungle fowl species, https://www.nature.com/articles/s41422-020-0349-y
The first study seems to concentrate on the impact of jungle fowl on domestic breeds but not the other way around which is what I would find interesting.
This should be a fairly obvious direction because of the difficulty of studying enough jungle fowl.

The second link seems to be in a simailr vein.

The third is more interesting.
"Overall, our analyses indicate that all RJF subspecies are genetically differentiated, which generally correspond to their geographic ranges and taxonomic classifications."

"These analyses indicate that all of the RJF subspecies diverged from one another substantially earlier than the advent of chicken domestication.2,3,4"
The paper then returns to the impact that taking jungle fowl and breeding with already domesticated chickens on domesticated chickens and not on the impact of jungle fowl.

The last one is back to the origins of the domestic chicken.

I couldn't find anything even remotely relevant to why a Legbar knows it's Legbar.

So sure, old news but still interesting but not relevant to the topic and doesn't deal with the effects if any of bleed over from domesticated chickens to jungle fowl.
Has the jungle fowl remained essentially the same as paper three suggests while doomestic chickens have had jungle fowl genetic additions at various points in time?
 
Meanwhile, back in the jungle....sorry allotments.
Behind the coop run are two black rubbish bins that have been used to store the feed and bedding.
I spent a coupld of hours cleaning them out a few weeks ago. They had bread so mouldy it had grown hair, rotting feed in odd little bags, clumps of damp woodchip bedding mixed in with the feed. All in all both bins were pretty disgusting.
I check the feed and bedding bin every day hoping to see a bag of layers pellets or maybe even plain cracked corn. The pictures below are a fair representation of what I've found over the last couple of weeks. One day stuff is there, a couple of days later it's gone and I get a test telling me the geese and chickens got fed in the morning. It's fair to assume that the contents of these bags is what they've got fed. It's hardly likely that C has taken the rubbish home and eaten it.
On the plus side, more recently there have been layers pellets in the coop feeder when I've arrived in the afternoon and very little rotton veg and stale bread strewn on the coop run floor.
The bird seed is okayish and the chickens like it but it's not really suitable as a staple diet.
I take about 1.4 kilo of layers pellets with me when I go in the afternoon and if the feeder in the coop run is empty I put them in there. But, I would have to take a further kilo to be confident that the geese were getting a proper diet.
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Fret.
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Fret and Carbon and Copy I think.
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It's not that they don't mix but apart from the unusual relationship between Similie and Lima I can't see any bonds between the red ones and the grey ones.
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Cloud. She's a bit of an oddball. She and Matilda get on quite well.
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I've written before about how I watched various pairs, rooster and hen, travel around the four to five acres the tribes used looking for a suitable nesting site.
Some adopted a regular site and why these sits became favoured sites is another interesting topic. Just as one example the nest box in my house is nothing like what we are led to believe a hen looks for in a nest site. It's open, I'm wandering about at all hours. It's noisy compared to even a coop nest box.
You canin the pictures below just make out Notch a rooster. No he's not laying an egg, but underneath Notch is a hen called Fray who is laying an egg. Notch and many of the other roosters I've known will sit on top of their hens should they lay in a relatively unsafe site. Fray and Notch had been wandering around most of thhe day looking and I beleive Fray just couldn't wait any longer.
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