Shadrach's Ex Battery and Rescued chickens thread.

[ManueB]

Sorry to bring you this awful news. There are plastic particles in our meat and milk. The Netherlands exports a lot of milk and meat all over Europe and even further. So it’s very well possible you eat or drink it too.

https://www.plasticsoupfoundation.o...k-mps-study-KEY-messages_final_2022-07-05.pdf

The plastic comes from the feed industry who throw in unsold products from the supermarkets.

They didn’t investigate chickens or chicken feed. Only cows, pigs. And feed for mammals. But there is no reason to believe that chicken feed isn’t contaminated too.

I think I make a new thread with this.
And adding tax for posting a non chicken subject.
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It's unfortunately already been shown by a number of studies that humans ingest huge amounts of plastic like this one https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0048969720378761
or this one https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M19-0618
It has been found in human placentas also.
You will probably eat a bit less plastic if you don't drink water or sodas in plastic bottles, don't eat sea animals, drink milk, eat meat.... But I would bet even hard core organic vegans eat plastic, unfortunately.

 

[MaryJanet]

It's unfortunately already been shown by a number of studies that humans ingest huge amounts of plastic like this one https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0048969720378761
or this one https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M19-0618
It has been found in human placentas also.
You will probably eat a bit less plastic if you don't drink water or sodas in plastic bottles, don't eat sea animals, drink milk, eat meat.... But I would bet even hard core organic vegans eat plastic, unfortunately.

Question: is it very bad for us?

I would have thought no or not very bad.

Next Q: is it bad for other mammals, fish, or birds?

I found an editorial of a special edition that says plastic ingestion slows growth but I haven't looked at the precise details yet.

 

[Perris]

Question: is it very bad for us?

I would have thought no or not very bad.

I think we need to distinguish between the stuff that passes through, and the stuff that remains. For example, it is obviously bad for sealife that starves to death because its stomach is full of plastic.

 

[MaryJanet]

I think we need to distinguish between the stuff that passes through, and the stuff that remains. For example, it is obviously bad for sealife that starves to death because its stomach is full of plastic.

Yes. Good point.

I thought we were discussing microplastics, but maybe not?

 

[Perris]

yes we were, also good point!

 

[Perris]

The plastic comes from the feed industry who throw in unsold products from the supermarkets.

I would say that's another reason not to feed our animals with concentrates made in such a way that the ingredients are unrecognizable.

 

[MaryJanet]

I would say that's another reason not to feed our animals with concentrates made in such a way that the ingredients are unrecognizable.

Might as well be safe than sorry.

 

[Perris]

Question: is it very bad for us?

I would have thought no or not very bad.

the melamine added to infant formula in China some years back was; as I recall it was added to boost the apparent protein values.

 

[ManueB]

Yes. Good point.

I thought we were discussing microplastics, but maybe not?

Yes, microparticles. I think the consensus that they weren't really harmful to humans health is been questioned again. More like we don't know and we're studying : https://ec.europa.eu/research-and-i...le-thousands-bits-plastic-every-year-now-what

Here poultry feed is never sold in plastic bags, neither sheep or cow but it could be stocked in plastic before that.

 

[ManueB]

I spent half an hour looking for the chicks this morning.
They must read this thread because they had found the chicken summer poop pile on the other side of the garden and they were scratching it over .