Shadrach's Ex Battery and Rescued chickens thread.

[TheFatBlueCat]

This is where we are with the feed comparison: I have 20 odd labels' ingredient info entered into an excel spreadsheet. Naturally, there are different legal requirements in each country (as they follow their own scientists' recommendations; the science is the same but the experts are not agreed about its relevance or interpretation) that producers in that country have to satisfy, which can make this exercise challenging. But, in general, I think we can get useful info from the order in which ingredients are listed, since every country requires them be listed in order of relative quantity, so whatever is 1st is what there's most of, etc.

In some cases the same ingredient pops up more than once within a single label, as e.g. ground wheat and wheat middlings on the same label (e.g. #8100). I have recorded such at the highest level it appears and left it at that, so in this example wheat appears just 1st, and not 1st and 3rd. Another potential source of confusion is different names for the same thing. If in doubt about an ingredient, use google translate to find a version you recognize. More problematic is the very laconic 'grain and grain products' type entry. For these I have merged the relevant cells if I can, and we'll have to leave the details to our imaginations. Easier cases of amalgamation are dealt with via the = sign.

I have omitted some manufacturers' idiosyncratic inclusions like molasses, marigold petals and suchlike because they are nutritional frills and I'm trying to lay foundations.

If you supplied a label, do please check I've transcribed aright. Some of the photos were a bit challenging for my eyesight. And I'm as capable of missing things and making typos as anyone. I expect to be making additions, so feel free to add if you have one that is not already listed.

The file is added as a pdf attachment as an excel file is not allowed. If you know how to convert Excel to a free-to-all spreadsheet, please let me know. Enjoy

That's fantastic! Good job @Perris

 

[RoyalChick]

This is where we are with the feed comparison: I have 20 odd labels' ingredient info entered into an excel spreadsheet. Naturally, there are different legal requirements in each country (as they follow their own scientists' recommendations; the science is the same but the experts are not agreed about its relevance or interpretation) that producers in that country have to satisfy, which can make this exercise challenging. But, in general, I think we can get useful info from the order in which ingredients are listed, since every country requires them be listed in order of relative quantity, so whatever is 1st is what there's most of, etc.

In some cases the same ingredient pops up more than once within a single label, as e.g. ground wheat and wheat middlings on the same label (e.g. #8100). I have recorded such at the highest level it appears and left it at that, so in this example wheat appears just 1st, and not 1st and 3rd. Another potential source of confusion is different names for the same thing. If in doubt about an ingredient, use google translate to find a version you recognize. More problematic is the very laconic 'grain and grain products' type entry. For these I have merged the relevant cells if I can, and we'll have to leave the details to our imaginations. Easier cases of amalgamation are dealt with via the = sign.

I have omitted some manufacturers' idiosyncratic inclusions like molasses, marigold petals and suchlike because they are nutritional frills and I'm trying to lay foundations.

If you supplied a label, do please check I've transcribed aright. Some of the photos were a bit challenging for my eyesight. And I'm as capable of missing things and making typos as anyone. I expect to be making additions, so feel free to add if you have one that is not already listed.

The file is added as a pdf attachment as an excel file is not allowed. If you know how to convert Excel to a free-to-all spreadsheet, please let me know. Enjoy

Thanks for doing that. For some reason I cannot open the file. I will try from my PC a bit later. Is anyone else having that issue?

 

[MaryJanet]

This is where we are with the feed comparison: I have 20 odd labels' ingredient info entered into an excel spreadsheet. Naturally, there are different legal requirements in each country (as they follow their own scientists' recommendations; the science is the same but the experts are not agreed about its relevance or interpretation) that producers in that country have to satisfy, which can make this exercise challenging. But, in general, I think we can get useful info from the order in which ingredients are listed, since every country requires them be listed in order of relative quantity, so whatever is 1st is what there's most of, etc.

In some cases the same ingredient pops up more than once within a single label, as e.g. ground wheat and wheat middlings on the same label (e.g. #8100). I have recorded such at the highest level it appears and left it at that, so in this example wheat appears just 1st, and not 1st and 3rd. Another potential source of confusion is different names for the same thing. If in doubt about an ingredient, use google translate to find a version you recognize. More problematic is the very laconic 'grain and grain products' type entry. For these I have merged the relevant cells if I can, and we'll have to leave the details to our imaginations. Easier cases of amalgamation are dealt with via the = sign.

I have omitted some manufacturers' idiosyncratic inclusions like molasses, marigold petals and suchlike because they are nutritional frills and I'm trying to lay foundations.

If you supplied a label, do please check I've transcribed aright. Some of the photos were a bit challenging for my eyesight. And I'm as capable of missing things and making typos as anyone. I expect to be making additions, so feel free to add if you have one that is not already listed.

The file is added as a pdf attachment as an excel file is not allowed. If you know how to convert Excel to a free-to-all spreadsheet, please let me know. Enjoy

Thanks Perris! I'll check mine tomorrow when I'm using a bigger screen.

 

[Perris]

Thanks Perris! I'll check mine tomorrow when I'm using a bigger screen.

indeed - it's 2 pages on landscape, so it'd be a real PITA on a phone screen!

 

[Perris]

Thanks for doing that. For some reason I cannot open the file. I will try from my PC a bit later. Is anyone else having that issue?

If I've done something with the pdf that makes it unreadable, I'll follow any instructions anyone wants to offer to convert excel to a format this platform accepts. I just need instructions in English rather than in computerese

 

[Perris]

Any excuse to post Marans pictures will do.
These Marans came from Marans in France.
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I thought their legs would be more feathered than that; they're barely there.

 

[Perris]

A replica of the Matthew is also here. I'm going on it with my eldest next month.

I hadn't heard of that one. Looks great. Quick trip round the port or all the way to Newfoundland? You'd need your sea legs if the latter

 

[RoyalChick]

If I've done something with the pdf that makes it unreadable, I'll follow any instructions anyone wants to offer to convert excel to a format this platform accepts. I just need instructions in English rather than in computerese

My issue is I can’t access the pdf. Will try later when not on phone.

Edited to add: I figured it out once I was on my PC - it is something to do with downloads but we are now past my technical competence or interest!

 

[Iluveggers]

Thanks for doing that. For some reason I cannot open the file. I will try from my PC a bit later. Is anyone else having that issue?

Wouldnt open for me on the app, so I held my finger on it until the options menu popped up, and I clicked “share” texted it to myself, and clicked on the text link. It asked if I wanted to download, and when I checked my phone “file” app where all downloads go, it was there.

@Perris that was super interesting thank you!

 

[RoyalChick]

Thanks for doing that. For some reason I cannot open the file. I will try from my PC a bit later. Is anyone else having that issue?

I got it. Thanks @Perris.
Should we also have the % protein, fat etc.? This is fantastic for actual ingredients - I had to laugh at the 'miscellaneous grains' thing - I had never noticed that before!