Shadrach's Ex Battery and Rescued chickens thread.

[Perris]

Théo is very angry about this!

Does he challenge Gaston? Or is he taking it out on you as a soft option?

My hand is much better after putting an ice pack and resting tonight

good; a sprained wrist can be a very painful and debilitating injury.

 

[BDutch]

A new episode of AI in France also this weekend and 36000 poultry slaughtered. An article about this via Google translate.
This concerns one of the major breeder of various poultry in France, the Ferme de Beaumont, that I already mentioned before for deciding to end shipping live animals. It's terrible news.

I know so little about biology and the spreading of disease that even if I was terrified by the numbers of poultry put down, I didn't have sufficient information to question the systematic eradication in our country in a 3 km zone and testing in 10kl. But now that the flu is turning endemic I don't see what use this massacre is - we're not containing an outbreak of epidemy anymore.

Totally agree that they need another strategy to deal with infected farms. Here the rules are a bit different. I think they only kill within 1 km zone. But the numbers of killed poultry in our live stock dense country is enormous.

From levende have.nl:
In the Netherlands, almost 5 million million chickens, ducks and turkeys have been killed since October 2021 due to an infection with bird flu or a precautionary culling. This far exceeds the numbers of recent years. …
The situation is now disastrous. Many speak of a ticking time bomb. After each infection, the poultry industry in the Netherlands keeps bringing in new animals that do not have any immunity, to the next infection. A spokesperson for the poultry sector says about vaccination: "It is a utopia that within the next two years we will vaccinate all poultry in the Netherlands against bird flu." (Source: Pluimveeweb).
Interested? Read more
with translate on https://www.levendehave.nl/nieuws/update-en-kaart-met-besmettingen-vogelgriep and https://www.levendehave.nl/nieuws/waarom-wordt-er-niet-gevaccineerd-tegen-vogelgriep

In a large part of the Netherlands commercial organic farming and outside free range chicken farms are forbidden since.
And its ridiculous that real free ranging is forbidden too for for all hobbyist chickens for almost a year now (much hobbyist don’t obey this rule anymore).

 

[Perris]

A new episode of AI in France also this weekend and 36000 poultry slaughtered. An article about this via Google translate.
This concerns one of the major breeder of various poultry in France, the Ferme de Beaumont, that I already mentioned before for deciding to end shipping live animals. It's terrible news.

I know so little about biology and the spreading of disease that even if I was terrified by the numbers of poultry put down, I didn't have sufficient information to question the systematic eradication in our country in a 3 km zone and testing in 10kl. But now that the flu is turning endemic I don't see what use this massacre is - we're not containing an outbreak of epidemy anymore.

I agree; now the disease in endemic and has been found in a wide variety of not just waterfowl but terrestrial bird species (and can and does infect other species, including mammals - see e.g. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3922066/ ) we need a different approach. The problem is that poultry are perceived by the people responsible for public health as the most likely vector for transmission of this nasty avian flu to humans. The 1918 flu, which originated in an avian flu ( https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/1918-pandemic-h1n1.html ), killed at least 50 million people.

Here there is a big campaign on to get people to get covid boosters and flu shots, because if someone gets flu and covid at the same time, the two viruses could merge to create a new one that transmits easily between people. The threat is real and significant.

I would like to see some good studies and evidence of the differential risk between the typical large commercial holdings and the typical small backyard holding, because the keeping conditions, management, bird breed and lifespan, impact on the environment (think e.g. of the amount of chicken shit a shed of 250,000 birds generates, and what happens to it when the shed is 'harvested'?), quantity of people and vehicles going in and out between holdings and hubs (for feed, bedding, slaughter etc) are like chalk and cheese. We need something more refined than a 'one size fits all' solution, the current one of which has failed to work to contain the spread of the virus. Natural immunity will be acquired, if given a chance, as it has among ducks, who spread it but don't die from it. Slaughtering everything in sight will instead prevent immunity being recognized or gained.

 

[ManueB]

Does he challenge Gaston? Or is he taking it out on you as a soft option?

It's not just Gaston. Chipie is acting again like she is thinking of being head of a new tribe with the four she hatched. But she isn't consistent ; sometime she hangs out with Théo too. Théo was ignoring them up to now or chasing them away if they came right under his nose ; but this morning he chased the four of them around the place for ten minutes. There is no fighting as they are way too afraid of him.

good; a sprained wrist can be a very painful and debilitating injury.

It's a finger I tweaked and was afraid I sprained, though I don't understand how I managed to do that!

Regarding AI, the US data indicates the nature of the setting and the number for each new declared cases- I wasn't able to find the equivalent for France : https://www.cdc.gov/flu/avianflu/data-map-commercial.htm

I do think sometimes drastic measures need to be taken to preserve public health. But I wonder if epidemiology is evolving as fast as the environment. Climate changes and the fact that wild life is now much more systematically in contact with domestic species seem to make so much difference.

 

[bruceha2000]

all the genes lined up for those 3.

Interesting. Will they breed true or will you always have to breed as before and hope some have the proper genes?

 

[pennyJo1960]

Good morning X Batts. Still dry here.
Seems climate change keeps rain from October to June.

 

[no fly zone]

Interesting. Will they breed true or will you always have to breed as before and hope some have the proper genes?

It's a dice roll as far what genes will pass on. I rarely end up with normal (aka common or "wild type") ball pythons because I am always pairing multi gene animals with multi gene animals.

 

[lightm]

I love those bin! The hen is cute too

Thank you!

Inky just finished molting. Darker feather is new feather.

 

[RoyalChick]

Thank you!

Inky just finished molting. Darker feather is new feather.
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Wow - she is looking absolutely stunning!

 

[Ladies-Eight]

Ex Batts good afternoon one and all!

83 partly sunny 78% humidity feels like 93 chance of rain.

Have a great day!