Shadrach's Ex Battery and Rescued chickens thread.

[Mother of Chaos]

I don't know if this was a joke or not?


Anyway, no.

edit; I see quite a few people have already said as much.

There has been quite a lot of work done on genetics in the British Isles. Loads of books by scientists with loads of documentation to back up their findings. I've read a few of them - you have to be a little cautious of the aim of the author. Just because they are 'academics' does not mean their intentions are pure, nor is their research rigorous.

Again, this was not an academic argument. I was asking about a thing that some everyday people believed. Like beliefs about good luck, or planting at the new moon. People making guesses about the world, which in fact is how science gets started.

 

[Perris]

Ann Cleves included it as part of the background for DI Jimmy Perez, a native Shetlander

fwiw, there were probably about 4 times as many Romans living here as *embarked* (never mind survived shipwreck) on the Spanish Armada, and about half of Roman sites here are known to have included people from North Africa, the Middle East and the rest of Europe. Maybe it's just presentism (or at least, short memories/ little historical knowledge) at play in this story. Compounding the nonsense, black isn't even a common hair colour amongst Spaniards, apparently. But a Shetlander called Perez is likely to have some Spanish connection is he not?

 

[thistlewick]

fwiw, there were probably about 4 times as many Romans living here as *embarked* (never mind survived shipwreck) on the Spanish Armada, and about half of Roman sites here are known to have included people from North Africa, the Middle East and the rest of Europe. Maybe it's just presentism (or at least, short memories/ little historical knowledge) at play in this story. Compounding the nonsense, black isn't even a common hair colour amongst Spaniards, apparently. But a Shetlander called Perez is likely to have some Spanish connection is he not?

fascinatingly, there is almost zero roman DNA amongst people in the british isles - because they did *not mix* with the peasants at all.

 

[Mother of Chaos]

I most sincerely apologize for disrupting the community, most especially @Shadrach. I’m glad to know that another myth has been busted!

 

[Perris]

I found such hens got over broodiness a lot faster.

That has been my experience too, with Rhondda as well as Janeka this year. I think there must be quite a rush of adrenaline (or whatever the chicken equivalent is) at the moment when they abandon the nest and take flight because the predator is too close for comfort.

I have assumed that when you took eggs and destroyed hidden nests (as you've told a few times here and there) you were imitating a predator attack, as regards the destruction, but you did it while the hen was off, rather than scare her off first. But maybe that's a false assumption...? Anyway, the survival of the hen is far more important than any clutch of eggs, as you say.

 

[Perris]

fascinatingly, there is almost zero roman DNA amongst people in the british isles - because they did *not mix* with the peasants at all.

source for that please?

eta, having read this https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2017/08/dna-romans/535701/
I'm going to park this topic.

 

[SimpleJenn]

Not me; I don't have a brooder. All chicks are broody raised here.

This is my DREAM
I may have 1-2 more incubator batches this year, I'm supposed to be getting eggs from that amazing Polish rooster I had held onto for a breeder this spring.
In the future, I have many wonderful silkies and silkie mixes to brood batches of youngsters. Going to be funny seeing them mothering large heritage birds for eating. Maybe the cochins will brood too?

 

[SimpleJenn]

Speaking of, here is Navy and the baby beans.
"This is the bucket lady, she is nice and has snacks"

 

[thistlewick]

source for that please?

eta, having read this https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2017/08/dna-romans/535701/
I'm going to park this topic.

lemme dig up the books - it's been awhile and they could have sourced new DNA - iirc, it was a team from Oxford that spearheaded DNA geneaology from matrilineal DNA. This was years ago. Found it;
Saxons, Vikings and Celts: The Genetic Roots of Britain, Ireland and America by Brian Sykes

His bits about Celts have since been re-researched with better technology but this was the first real dig into the DNA ancestry of the British isles.


However, the fact that the Romans didn't mix with the 'peasants' in Britain (or elsewhere much) is just.. history. When they left, the reason why there was a 'dark age' as people misrepresent it (and no one currently calls it that anymore) was because when they bailed, they took their knowledge of how to work all the industry that they brought with them with them. They didn't share or teach or pass down any of it to the 'peasant' population that was subjugated and enslaved.

Here is a little bit;
nature article
legacy of roman britain
another journal article saying the same thing
where most british genes come from
a large chunk 30-40% are Saxon :O


if you look for a few exceptions, you will find them (the ivory bone lady in York, for example) but exceptions are exceptions, etc etc

Despite the fact that Sykes' work has been updated and clarified, I liked his holistic approach and UNnationalistic ideas about where the British are 'from'.

edit for tax!

 

[Molpet]

Well I don't think they know it's made out of keratin. 2 out of 3 times I go there to feed them, so why wouldn't I be made out of food? She probably thinks "Mmm this is some delicious looking brown grass".

Hard to tell with CX if they just relate you to giving food or actually like you. I do think they actually like me and I do think it's grooming, just a bit too rough sometimes. Furthermore, they sit on my lap and I can always see them eye pinning. I have the eye pinning on video but BYC doesn't allow me to upload it

You have to put a video on YouTube and then post a link to it