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I love your feather footed EEs. I think I'm going to cross some olive Eggers when my Ameraucanas start breeding. I wonder if the feathered feet would carry from the BCM
Feathered shanks have 2 or 3 genes that affect it I think, but I thought it was dominant. Maybe it's incomplete dominant?
 
Walnut, I believe the other thread is dead now (?), but I wanted to tell you that the air cell is completely surrounding the chick now! I can see the difference between the early draw down and the full blown draw down! I don't see an internal pip yet but I see the chicks moving. Looks like I lost 2 but 3 look super close! Almost day 26. I'll snap a pic tonight, when it gets dark. Thanks for your help.
 
A recessive barring gene? What!? Is it a rooster?

It's still young, but I think it's a pullet.




I love your feather footed EEs. I think I'm going to cross some olive Eggers when my Ameraucanas start breeding. I wonder if the feathered feet would carry from the BCM

It has come across from Brahma and Cochin, so I'd say yes, and you would get olive eggs!

And here is no-neck now:

 
Do we have a SCduckchick yet?


Haha yes yes yes! Beware! :gig

Walnut, I believe the other thread is dead now (?), but I wanted to tell you that the air cell is completely surrounding the chick now! I can see the difference between the early draw down and the full blown draw down! I don't see an internal pip yet but I see the chicks moving. Looks like I lost 2 but 3 look super close! Almost day 26. I'll snap a pic tonight, when it gets dark. Thanks for your help.


Excellent!
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It's still young, but I think it's a pullet.

Was the Cock the white colored chicken? It could be double barred maybe. Just digging into some genetics stuff.

Sex-linked dilution BSd Females that are hemizygous for BSd (having one BSd gene) have light blue and barred plumage as do the heterozygous males, however, homozygous males show a dosage effect and are essentially white. These homozygous males resemble dominant whites but differ in that they are epistatic to pheomelanin while dominant white is not.​
http://sellers.kippenjungle.nl/page3.html

The way I read that the rooster could have two copies of barring and look white. But then all of the pullets he sires should have one copy of barring.


Edited to add this:
Pattern gene Pg
Dominant. This is the pattern gene which, together with other genes is responsible for the patterns of plumage. The pattern gene doesn’t seem to express in the absence of Ml in combination with some of the E locus alleles. See text. The pattern gene with the Db and Co Columbian-like restrictors is believed to be responsible for autosomal barring.​

Since one of the parents seem to have the columbian gene. So you could have the pattern gene Pg, Db and Co and that would lead to barring regardless of sex.

And one more:
Autosomal barring Ab Non-sex-linked barring. Sometimes called 'parallel pencilling'. This is not a real gene, rather autosomal barring is due to combinations of Pg, Co, Db with eb, ER, and ebc. See text.​


Looks to me like Co with Pg and Db since one of the parents is is columbian pattern. Sorry, just rambling.
 
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That is very interesting.

ISA Browns are a feather sexable hybrid, and my EE roos are mutts...he looks like a Light Brahma, feathered feet and all...but hatched from a green egg. So there is no telling what genetics are buried in there. I am on a mission to unleash them, and keep the best birds (build, health, appearance, egg production, fast growth, meat development) so I can cut back on buying the RSLs. The small combs are great in winter. Once these gals start laying the egg baskets should be colorful!
 
ISA Browns are a feather sexable hybrid, and my EE roos are mutts...he looks like a Light Brahma, feathered feet and all...but hatched from a green egg. So there is no telling what genetics are buried in there. I am on a mission to unleash them, and keep the best birds (build, health, appearance, egg production, fast growth, meat development) so I can cut back on buying the RSLs. The small combs are great in winter. Once these gals start laying the egg baskets should be colorful!
The ISA browns probably provided the Db (brown) gene that mixed up with his Pg and Co gene to unleash a barred chick. That's awesome. If I understand it correctly the Pg gene does not show up without the
Ml, so maybe the ISA carried that too?
 

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