She said/He said Who's right? Who's wrong? No one!

This was my question too. Also, if you plan on selling a lot of chicks you are hatching, it seems like it would just be costing you more money. But it could be a good selling point that chicks are already vaccinated. I've been reading on it too. I'm debating on doing it with this next hatch, as I will most likely be keeping any that make it to hatch.
When people ask about vaccinated chicks, I tell them I don't and why. Never lost a sale. I have a friend with similar breeds, she vaccinates all for Mareks, and her sales aren't as good as mine. A lot of that has to do with location, but in my experience vaccination does not translate to extra sales, at least locally
 
Sorry to hear they look so bad, but hopefully they will straighten out.  I don't know why there would be fluid in the air cells.  If you didn't pick them up, are you sure it wasn't just shadow??  ( I'm grasping for any good possibility!).  Can I ask why you aren't going to tilt them until day 7?  I'm just thinking maybe a little movement might be better than sitting perfectly still all that time.  Not a lot of movement, just a little.  I know you have researched shipped eggs and I have not, at all.  So I'm not questioning your judgment, I'm just wondering what the theory is behind no movement.  

Emailed with my sebright contact yesterday.  She is collecting eggs for me this week, and I will pick them up next Monday.  I should be able to pick up the incubator on Sunday or Monday, but it will be late before I return home Monday evening (almost 3 hour drive, each way... after working all day!), and will need time for the incubator to stabilize, so I will probably set on Tuesday.  I'm so excited to hatch again!

That's awesome about the eggs!!! I wish we were all hatching together but we will in the spring!! I've decided to get the octagon 20, for my birthday/christmas (same week). That way I'll be in business come spring!! Then we can DUAL. Yes, I spelled it that way on purpose. ;)

I found a thread on the geese forum about detached air cells and this thread was filled with pics of exactly what I'm dealing with. They had fluid in the air cells too but never specified what is was. Someone asked if it was amniotic fluid but no one knew. That's why I asked here. And normally you're right about movement but not with this kind of damage. Usually when I do shipped eggs, I have solid air cells by day 5 and then I just treat them like local eggs. Here's a copy & paste bc my version was 5x longer and less coherent.
"Allow shipped hatching eggs to sit in an upright position in incubator without turning for the first 7 days; this allows air cells to stabilize and gives the germ time to organize and get a healthy start without constantly being moved disturbing delicate vessels and cell formation. Shipped eggs most likely suffered some damage, constantly disturbing this formation will give lower hatches."
 
That's awesome about the eggs!!! I wish we were all hatching together but we will in the spring!! I've decided to get the octagon 20, for my birthday/christmas (same week). That way I'll be in business come spring!! Then we can DUAL. Yes, I spelled it that way on purpose.
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That's awesome about the eggs!!! I wish we were all hatching together but we will in the spring!! I've decided to get the octagon 20, for my birthday/christmas (same week). That way I'll be in business come spring!! Then we can DUAL. Yes, I spelled it that way on purpose. ;)

I found a thread on the geese forum about detached air cells and this thread was filled with pics of exactly what I'm dealing with. They had fluid in the air cells too but never specified what is was. Someone asked if it was amniotic fluid but no one knew. That's why I asked here. And normally you're right about movement but not with this kind of damage. Usually when I do shipped eggs, I have solid air cells by day 5 and then I just treat them like local eggs. Here's a copy & paste bc my version was 5x longer and less coherent.
"Allow shipped hatching eggs to sit in an upright position in incubator without turning for the first 7 days; this allows air cells to stabilize and gives the germ time to organize and get a healthy start without constantly being moved disturbing delicate vessels and cell formation. Shipped eggs most likely suffered some damage, constantly disturbing this formation will give lower hatches."


Oh!! So its for the embryo development! I thought it had to do with stabilizing the air cell. Geez, I feel stupid now! Thank you for enlightening me. I know I had read how much harder they were, just never paid attention as to why.

I wish I had been able to catch up with you to have a dual (lol) but we'll get em next time!
 
New design to compete with the TSC prefabs. Still gotta finish the cleanout door, ramp, and paint, but going to see if a smaller one will sell. Going to build a 4 ft detachable run as well




What's the size of the footprint? I like the looks of it. It would make a great home for Armand and Katherine!
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WV - are you going to use the humidity pump? It can be a bit of a pain to get going, but I love it.

Make sure you prime the tubing first or the pump can have trouble filling the tube.
 
Folks, Just remember that Mareks is a Airborne disease and if you do not house birds in a Bio secure building they are exposed. Like I always say you shovel the Crap and buy the feed so use your own judgement.
 

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