She said/He said Who's right? Who's wrong? No one!

Has anyone heard from SC? Our news is reporting some not do good stuff in the Carolinas.

He's annoyed but fine
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There ya go!  I wasn't going to push you to do something you didn't want to, but you have ME wondering what is inside that egg!

Maybe they are all just double yolkers...which should never have been sold as hatching eggs...but with everything else that cheap egg seller did wrong, one more thing would be no surprise.



I'd have to open it. One of the reasons I do eggtopsies is I'm just naturally curious. I did not do them on my very first hatch and I have always regreted that. There's no question as to why they quit after lockddown, but I wish I had done them regardless.



I agree, I do eggtopsies on all my non hatchers.
Yea, she did alot of things she shouldn't have and now I'm paying for it. I think her hens had all just started laying so shes new to all of this, but still, thats no reason to sell filthy eggs from a too young hen. At first I thought it was because I washed them but now I'm wondering. I washed the others also but I'm not having crazy issues with them quitting right and left and having strange wispy veins and big blobby masses in there that shouldn't be. I think her hens we're just too young to be collecting fertile eggs from them to sell.
Yea, I think I'm going to have to open it up if and when it quits (I'm pretty sure it will before lockdown) I can't not know what that is, lol. I thought at first maybe it was just a knot of blood vessels that got stuck on the shell together but I don't even know if that's possible? Yeah, I'll satisfy my and everyone else's curiosity if he, or maybe they, quit on me.
 
Well, I think I'm hitting the hay, it's WAAAAYYYY past my bedtime, lol. Y'all let me know what you think about the too young hen theory and I'll be back in the AM to see what everyone thinks. I will say some of the eggs were odd shaped which I know is a problem from first time layers. They weren't extremely weird shapes or anything but they weren't normal either. Anyways, y'all let me know what y'all think. If we all agree on the hens being too young I'll wait to have her replace them til spring so they have a little more time to get their systems up and running correctly, lol. See y'all tomorrow, G'nite :frow
 
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Here are a few strange looking pics for your reference. Different stages, but I think you will get the idea. #8 hatched, but pipped the the wrong spot and I had to cull a couple weeks later due to slipped tendon. I had a couple more that looked alot like that one, and hatched fine. #14 was Blobby, DIS around day 21. We don't know what will happen with yours. I hope for the best. Hang in there!

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I am feeling a bit defeated, not holding my breath for this hatch. What exactly should the temps & humidity be for a still air incubator? I read such conflicting information from 98* to no it needs to be 101* and everything in between. How much does the age of the hen play in the hatchability of the eggs? Ugh :(
 
I am feeling a bit defeated, not holding my breath for this hatch. What exactly should the temps & humidity be for a still air incubator? I read such conflicting information from 98* to no it needs to be 101* and everything in between. How much does the age of the hen play in the hatchability of the eggs? Ugh :(


For still air it should be 101 to 102. For the duration of the hatch. Humidity should be 20% IMO....until hatch then it should be 65 to 75 % at hatch.
 
I am feeling a bit defeated, not holding my breath for this hatch. What exactly should the temps & humidity be for a still air incubator? I read such conflicting information from 98* to no it needs to be 101* and everything in between. How much does the age of the hen play in the hatchability of the eggs? Ugh :(


I have forced air, but agree with Ross, 101-102 is what I've read more often.
Age of the hen, I have read alot (a lot AmyP! Lol) more varied info on this subject. Personally I wouldn't want very early eggs from a hen, nor when the hen gets old, but I think anything in between is supposedly good to go.

I think hen nutrition is a much more important factor than her age.

Are your eggs not doing well? What are you thinking is the main problem?
 
I have forced air, but agree with Ross, 101-102 is what I've read more often.
Age of the hen, I have read alot (a lot AmyP! Lol) more varied info on this subject. Personally I wouldn't want very early eggs from a hen, nor when the hen gets old, but I think anything in between is supposedly good to go.

I think hen nutrition is a much more important factor than her age.

Are your eggs not doing well? What are you thinking is the main problem?

I dont know and thats whats frustrating. We have 3 Rouen (2 hens 1 drake), 2 Peking (1 hen 1 drake) & 2 Khaki Campbell's (both drakes) and are now 7 months old. They get feed, kitchen / table scraps, fresh fruits & veggies as well as free ranged all day up until last Saturday when a fox was just feet from the run. They started laying at 5 - 5 1/2 months.

The first batch I tried was 36 eggs only because no one wanted to sit. I knew a few were older than 10 days but hoped for something. 5 ended up cracking a few I saw movement but none hatched. I had the temp at 101-102 and humidity was a bit harder to control because air humidity was 80-100% but in the incubator I was able to keep it more around 40-45%. Air cells all appeared to develop normal.

This batch was 34, 18 from our ducks and 16 from a friend. I kept the temp 100-101 and humidity 35-45%. Of those 14 were duds, 13 I am sure were quitters, 3 looked like they were developing but no movement and 4 I saw movement up until when I candled Monday. One looked like it had an internal pip with its foot (pictured earlier) and the shell turned dark. Tonight at 10pm starts day 28 so maybe something will happen. And their air cells look good too.
 
I dont know and thats whats frustrating. We have 3 Rouen (2 hens 1 drake), 2 Peking (1 hen 1 drake) & 2 Khaki Campbell's (both drakes) and are now 7 months old. They get feed, kitchen / table scraps, fresh fruits & veggies as well as free ranged all day up until last Saturday when a fox was just feet from the run. They started laying at 5 - 5 1/2 months.

The first batch I tried was 36 eggs only because no one wanted to sit. I knew a few were older than 10 days but hoped for something. 5 ended up cracking a few I saw movement but none hatched. I had the temp at 101-102 and humidity was a bit harder to control because air humidity was 80-100% but in the incubator I was able to keep it more around 40-45%. Air cells all appeared to develop normal.

This batch was 34, 18 from our ducks and 16 from a friend. I kept the temp 100-101 and humidity 35-45%. Of those 14 were duds, 13 I am sure were quitters, 3 looked like they were developing but no movement and 4 I saw movement up until when I candled Monday. One looked like it had an internal pip with its foot (pictured earlier) and the shell turned dark. Tonight at 10pm starts day 28 so maybe something will happen. And their air cells look good too.


Crap. I forgot they were duck eggs. Not sure what the humidity needs to be. But if the air cells looked good you would think they were okay. Did you mist the eggs??I read some where that with duck eggs you need to mist them. Is that true WV??
 

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