Shocking Food Industry Secrets

[PaulaJoAnne]

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I am sorry, but even the CDC has the statistics showing that raw milk is safer then spinach.
Read the Untold story of raw milk, and the real numbers, before trying to argue this point.

 

[chicken2010]

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I'm sorry but manufactured vs natural = YOUR BODY CAN'T TELL THE DIFFERENCE AS LONG AS IT'S NOT CYANIDE OR SOMETHING haha and people may ''react'' badly to MSG if they think it's going to be in their food, the placebo effect. I'm studying food science/ nutrition at a very renown university for this subject as well as studied chemistry at higher level, if you knew more about chemistry in depth then you would actually be fine with artificially synthesized molecules compared to natural, there's no difference. Just like how ''natural'' water distilled compared to water synthesized from its basic atoms hydrogen and oxygen- your body won't treat any differently

PS tbh I wouldn't trust hear say from people or the internet and until you could possibly find a scientific journal published and approved by some authority i wouldn't trust it

Reactions came before I knew it was msg. No hearsay around here.
Same for a friend. Severe reaction. finally eliminated msg containing foods. BAM! Better.
I am not prone to manufactured symptoms.

What you are saying is so dangerous. Our bodies know very well the difference between nourishing and fake.

Have you got any sort of scientific journals to prove it? I could very definitely tell you you've not eliminated glutamate from your diet as it occurs in every living organism.
Though, if it is the case your body may have a slight intolerance for glutamate rather similar to an allergy just as how some people aren't tolerant of lactose in milk and feel ill from drinking milk

 

[PaulaJoAnne]

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i have to get ready for church in a bit, but I will be back

 

[chicken2010]

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I am sorry, but even the CDC has the statistics showing that raw milk is safer then spinach.
Read the Untold story of raw milk, and the real numbers, before trying to argue this point.

but if raw milk was contaminated with microbe and not pasteurized then left to sit it could get very dangerous so everything that the FDA passed down is in consideration of the worst outcomes and to protect people from being ill, what would the FDA get out of telling people to pasteurize milk? you read an article which is likely to be biased, if they were writing for raw milk then it's going to be very one-sided, would you mind posting the page for me to look at? as none of the claims made here are actually supported by any scientific evidence or journals

 

[PaulaJoAnne]

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Reactions came before I knew it was msg. No hearsay around here.
Same for a friend. Severe reaction. finally eliminated msg containing foods. BAM! Better.
I am not prone to manufactured symptoms.

What you are saying is so dangerous. Our bodies know very well the difference between nourishing and fake.

Have you got any sort of scientific journals to prove it? I could very definitely tell you you've not eliminated glutamate from your diet as it occurs in every living organism.
Though, if it is the case your body may have a slight intolerance for glutamate rather similar to an allergy just as how some people aren't tolerant of lactose in milk and feel ill from drinking milk

Again, I know the diferrence between free l-glutamic acid, d- glutamic acid, and pyro-glutamic acid, contaminants and carcinogens.
I could pile on the info, but, I will be late for church.
We also have a dinner engagment in the afternoon, so we will not be home till quite late.
I will catch up with this monday, but will be perfectly fine with others chiming in

 

[PaulaJoAnne]

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I am sorry, but even the CDC has the statistics showing that raw milk is safer then spinach.
Read the Untold story of raw milk, and the real numbers, before trying to argue this point.

but if raw milk was contaminated with microbe and not pasteurized then left to sit it could get very dangerous so everything that the FDA passed down is in consideration of the worst outcomes and to protect people from being ill, what would the FDA get out of telling people to pasteurize milk? you read an article which is likely to be biased, if they were writing for raw milk then it's going to be very one-sided, would you mind posting the page for me to look at? as none of the claims made here are actually supported by any scientific evidence or journals

Money.

While I am gone, read the following for starters....
www.realmilk.com all links
http://www.cheeseslave.com/2008/01/09/drinking-pasteurized-milk-is-dangerous/ note that statistics coem from the CDC, and can easily be searched out for yourself.

 

[chicken2010]

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Have you got any sort of scientific journals to prove it? I could very definitely tell you you've not eliminated glutamate from your diet as it occurs in every living organism.
Though, if it is the case your body may have a slight intolerance for glutamate rather similar to an allergy just as how some people aren't tolerant of lactose in milk and feel ill from drinking milk

Again, I know the diferrence between free l-glutamic acid, d- glutamic acid, and pyro-glutamic acid, contaminants and carcinogens.
I could pile on the info, but, I will be late for church.
We also have a dinner engagment in the afternoon, so we will not be home till quite late.
I will catch up with this monday, but will be perfectly fine with others chiming in

Those are all isomers of glutamic acid but I'm asking whether you have any scientific evidence to back up your claims, just as how you can't claim someone is guilty of murder without any evidence to back-up your claims etc in university academia you always make hypothesis that you try to disprove as you can never prove something is absolutely correct until you try disprove it so have you got any evidence to disprove your hypothesis that artificial glutamate is any worse than naturally occurring glutamate?

 

[BirdBrain]

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I can appreciate your enthusiasm for a subject that you are studying. It reminds me a bit of myself in nursing school. I was convinced beyond a shadow of a doubt that the stuff I was being fed as gospel truth was in fact just that. I didn't know that I was being fed a pack of half truths and some outright lies by very well intentioned good people who had been trained by the same system.

Just because something hasn't been true in your reality does not mean that it is false. There are tons of people who wear perfume. If I am even around it I get an instant headache...migraine. I don't plan to have it cuz I know I am exposed to it. Neither do all the people who react badly to synthetic MSG.

Your rather strong response to the question of the safety of raw milk has me baffled.

 

[chicken2010]

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but if raw milk was contaminated with microbe and not pasteurized then left to sit it could get very dangerous so everything that the FDA passed down is in consideration of the worst outcomes and to protect people from being ill, what would the FDA get out of telling people to pasteurize milk? you read an article which is likely to be biased, if they were writing for raw milk then it's going to be very one-sided, would you mind posting the page for me to look at? as none of the claims made here are actually supported by any scientific evidence or journals

Money.

While I am gone, read the following for starters....
www.realmilk.com all links
http://www.cheeseslave.com/2008/01/09/drinking-pasteurized-milk-is-dangerous/ note that statistics coem from the CDC, and can easily be searched out for yourself.

sorry, but first website can't be trusted straight away here's a little opening sentence:

Please note that this website recommends Real Milk--that is, milk that is full-fat, unprocessed, and from pasture-fed cows. We do NOT recommend consumption of raw milk from conventional confinement dairies or dairies which produce milk intended for pasteurization.

This website is advertising its OWN product - of course it'll be one sided as who would want to tell people about the bad points when you're trying to sell a product?!? I could tell the site wasn't that credible from the name of the website already, ''real milk'' the site is selling to people like you who believe that raw milk is ''better'' and that is what ''real milk'' is.

The second website is equally as not scientific as the title is ''drinking pasteurized milk is dangerous'' it shows the cases outbreaks through out the years which are minimal tbh as 1 case in the whole of the US? where is the data for outbreaks from drinking raw milk? may be compare which one has more outbreaks etc? and the reason why raw milk is illegal is because standards have to be maintained, could you imagine the WHOLE of the USA drinking raw milk? milk being produced in such vast quantities in a not guaranteed environment would be devastating and imagine the numbers of outbreaks compared to that occasional outbreak once a year possibly through a contaminated plant or because the consumer actually stored the milk incorrectly at home and not related to pasteurization.

 

[chicken2010]

http://www.cdc.gov/healthypets/cheesespotlight/cheese_spotlight.htm
CDC website, if raw milk was legal and under mass production would you be able to guarantee that the conditions will be clean when they're producing such a vast amount of milk for people over the usa plus the transport time etc will allow time for microbes to breed and sanitary conditions are rare once you enter mass production as there's so much other things to do and worry about