Should i add a rooster advise needed.

[bobbi-j]

Why does the amount of time matter? The experience doesn't come with time, It comes with how much your actaully willing to learn.

Actually, time is needed to gain experience and we learn from that experience. I am not going to participate in hijacking the OP’s thread by arguing with you. I have said all I’m going to say.

OP, you are the only one who can decide what’s best for you and your cockerel. This chicken keeping thing is an ongoing learning experience. Enjoy your birds!

 

[Hyper_Chicken05]

Actually, time is needed to gain experience and we learn from that experience. I am not going to participate in hijacking the OP’s thread by arguing with you. I have said all I’m going to say.

OP, you are the only one who can decide what’s best for you and your cockerel. This chicken keeping thing is an ongoing learning experience. Enjoy your birds!

What i meant was, Because someone has spent less time on a certain topic. I doesn't mean they know less. (I know your not going to reply, But i just said it to inform you)

 

[aart]

Because someone has spent less time on a certain topic. I doesn't mean they know less.

Actually, it usually does mean they know less.

 

[Hyper_Chicken05]

Actually, it usually does mean they know less.

"Usually"

 

[Zombieattackready]

Mostly, but no, it’s not mean, as long as they have a building (barn, garage, shed, etc) or a dog house to get out of any weather. Plus access to shade. Most Pyrenees are in a fenced in area (in the run/yard, chickens are penned in to) or on a long cable where they can wander and scare of predators, but not be able to go chasing after one, and get lost. I’ve never seen anyone leave them loose without a fence or tie of some sort, but you might be able to let them roam, as long as you believe they won’t take off.
As I’ve seen, most Pyrenees do better at guarding if they aren’t overly pampered. You want them to have a good relationship with you and like people, but making them too comfortable and pampered could cause them to ignore predators.

I would NEVER tie any dog up. I have friends with freely roaming Great Pyrenees and they stick right at home. They keep all predators away and occasionally will chase a bear but all return home. They are super smart that way.

 

[34Fam]

I want you all to know how much I appreciate your input. That is what I wanted...opinions. That way I could weed through them all and decide my best course of action. Mr. Rooster is settling in. I watched him attend to a hen while she was laying her 2nd egg ever. He stayed right at the nest the whole time. He would occasionally reach in and fluff some of the beding for her. He even got in and sat next to her for a few minutes. Strange. He is challenging my husband and pecking his shoes. Hubby is working with it. He just got hone from a business trip.He is walking right through him and picking him up and handing out treats ect..so, hope to see progress. He must behave appropriately in order to stay. He is free to do his job but must be submissive to the humans who feed him!

 

[aart]

I watched him attend to a hen while she was laying her 2nd egg ever. He stayed right at the nest the whole time.

That's a great sign!
Best of cLuck...or Crow!

 

[MissChick@dee]

I would have to vote NO on the roo personally I’ve only had heartache (because I get attached). I have had enough torn up girls. I want eggs not babies. A flock provides a lot of eyes in the sky, they sound the alarm just like roo’s. Your setup sounds so WONDERFUL leave it be. And the only time you’ll find a dead roo it’s because he wasn’t fast enough not because he fought a fox to his death just doesn’t happen thata’ way.

 

[bobbi-j]

Please, please, please read Beekissed’s post below on training a cockerel/rooster (technically, yours is still a cockerel - he’s under a year old - he’s just coming into his hormones). She’s very knowledgeable and this technique works.

Here's a post written by Beekissed regarding dealing with problem birds of any gender.

I'm going to give you a clue on "rooster speak"....holding him down doesn't mean anything to him. If you'll watch how roosters interact between dominant ones and subordinate ones, there is rarely any, if ever, holding a bird down for a long time when there is an altercation. There is very quick flogging, gripping by the back of the head and flinging him away or getting him down and giving some savage pecking to the back of the head or neck. No holding him down and nothing else. That's a rooster on a hen maneuver, not rooster on rooster.

Because your rooster is attacking you, you are the subordinate in this picture. You are getting dominated by your bird simply because you are walking where a subordinate isn't supposed to be walking when a dominant is in the area. What you never see is a dominant rooster getting attacked by a subordinate rooster unless there is going to be a definite shift in power, at which time the sub will challenge the dom and win...or lose. So far you are losing and not even challenging.

If you want to win this battle, you must go on the offensive, not the defensive. He who attacks first, and is still claiming the area when the other guy leaves it, is the winner. Some people never have to go on the offensive because their movements in the coop are so decisive that they move and act like a dominant and a 2 ft. rooster is smart enough to recognize a dominant attitude and behavior...which is likely why he's never attacked your husband. Most men move more decisively than do women and children and they rarely step around a bird, but walk through them.

Carrying him around also doesn't mean anything to him...it just doesn't translate at all. His environment is that coop and run floor and that's where you need to speak to him, in a language he understands. Because they are quick on their feet and can evade you, you need a training tool like a long, limber, supple rod of some kind...cutting a nice switch from a shrub or tree that will lengthen your reach by 5 ft. really helps in this. Don't use a rake or broom because they are too clumsy and stiff and can put the hurts on the guy when you don't really mean to.

When you enter your coop, walk with decisive movements and walk directly towards your rooster. Move him away from the feeder and the rest of the flock and keep a slow, determined pressure on him until he leaves the coop. The stick will help you guide him. Then...wait patiently while he gets his bird mind around what just happened. He will try to come back in the coop...let him. When he gets a good bit into that coop, take your switch and give him a good smack on the fluffy feathers under his tail if you can aim it well. If you cannot, just smack the floor near him very hard and fast until he hops and runs and keep at it until he leaves the coop once again. Repeat this process until he is too wary to come back in the coop.

Feed your hens. When he tries to come to the feeder, you "attack" him with the switch...smack the wall by the pop door just as he tries to enter. If he makes it inside, pursue him with the stick either smacking the floor or tapping him on the back or the head until he leaves in a hurry. Make him stay outside while you sit there and enjoy watching your hens eat. Use the stick to keep him from the flock..just him. Don't worry about the hens running and getting excited when this is happening...they will get over it. This is for the future of your flock and your management of it.

When the hens have had a good tucker....leave the coop and let him come back in. Go out later and walk through that flock and use your legs to scatter birds if they get in your way...top roosters do not step to one side for any other bird in the flock. You shouldn't either. Take your stick and startle him with a smack on the floor next to him when he is least expecting it...make that bird jump and RUN. Make him so nervous around you that he is always looking over his shoulder and trying to get out of your way. THAT'S how he needs to be from now on in your lives together. Forget about pets or cuddles...this is a language and behavior he understands. You can hand feed him and such later...right now you need to establish that when you move, he moves...away. When you turn your back, he doesn't move towards you...ever.

Then test him...take your stick along, move around in the coop, bend over with your back turned to him, feed, water, etc....but keep one eye on that rooster. If he even makes one tiny step in your direction or in your "zone", go on the attack and run him clear on out of the coop. Then keep him out while everyone else is eating.

THAT'S how a dominant rooster treats a subordinate. They don't let them crow, mate or even eat in their space. If the subordinate knows his place and watches over his shoulder a lot, he may get to come and eat while the other rooster is at the feeder...but he doesn't ever relax if he knows what is good for him. At any given time the dominant will run him off of that feed and he knows it, so he eats with one eye toward the door. If he feels the need to crow, it's not usually where the dom can reach him...maybe across the yard.

If your rooster crows while you are there, move towards him and keep on the pressure until he stops. He doesn't get to crow while you are there. He can crow later...not while you are there.

It all sounds time consuming but it really isn't...shouldn't take more than minutes for each lesson and you can learn a lot as you go along. And it can be fun if you venture into it with the right attitude....this is rooster training that really works if you do it correctly. This can work on strange roosters, multiple roosters and even old roosters...they can all learn. You rule the coop...now act like it. Carrying is for babies...you have a full grown rooster on your hands, not a baby.

Note that when she says to “give him a good smack”, she’s not talking about beating him or causing pain. Just to surprise him. Keep him on his toes and make him cautious. A rooster who is doing his job (watching for predators, keeping peace in the flock) shouldn’t be hanging around with h the humans looking for handouts. Sounds like he’s off to a good start with the hens.

 

[34Fam]

Please, please, please read Beekissed’s post below on training a cockerel/rooster (technically, yours is still a cockerel - he’s under a year old - he’s just coming into his hormones). She’s very knowledgeable and this technique works.



Note that when she says to “give him a good smack”, she’s not talking about beating him or causing pain. Just to surprise him. Keep him on his toes and make him cautious. A rooster who is doing his job (watching for predators, keeping peace in the flock) shouldn’t be hanging around with h the humans looking for handouts. Sounds like he’s off to a good start with the hens.

Will do!