Should i add a rooster advise needed.

[Hyper_Chicken05]

I never said that it thanks for twisting my words around ,
I said he won’t be a friendly lap rooster and a proper guard rooster ... they aren’t both . If you want a true rooster to protect his flock then the kids the dogs and predators are the enemies .

Oops sorry I guess I did twist up your words, But ummmm... Roosters can be pets and protective guards, You just have to teach the rooster what to respect and what’s a threat.

 

[bobbi-j]

"Why no cuddling him? Roosters can't be pets as well? Or is it harmful for the flock? He is so sweet. A week younger than my girls. He is 20 weeks."

Because cuddling them and allowing them into your space can blur the lines for him. Do a search on here for "Aggressive Rooster". Many of them begin with the words, "My sweet rooster attacked me today for no reason! He's been cuddled and handled since he was a baby...." Not saying that this WILL happen if you make pets of them, but it is a possibility.

Some believe that it confuses them - they begin to think they are dominant and will flog and spur you to show that dominance. I have been raising chickens for 30+ years. I have had mean roosters and good ones. In the past few years, I have started training them to respect my space from the time I recognize their gender. I stop handling them, walk toward them and make them back up. If a cockerel is between me and where I want to be, I go where I want and he gets out of my way. If one challenges me, I look him in the eye and move toward him until he backs down. Sometimes I move them away from food or water just because I can. I have not had a problematic cockerel/rooster since I have started raising them that way. I personally will not make a pet of another cockerel. Yours is young yet - he may not have hit sexual maturity yet, which is often when those behaviors begin.

 

[Hyper_Chicken05]

"Why no cuddling him? Roosters can't be pets as well? Or is it harmful for the flock? He is so sweet. A week younger than my girls. He is 20 weeks."

Because cuddling them and allowing them into your space can blur the lines for him. Do a search on here for "Aggressive Rooster". Many of them begin with the words, "My sweet rooster attacked me today for no reason! He's been cuddled and handled since he was a baby...." Not saying that this WILL happen if you make pets of them, but it is a possibility.

Some believe that it confuses them - they begin to think they are dominant and will flog and spur you to show that dominance. I have been raising chickens for 30+ years. I have had mean roosters and good ones. In the past few years, I have started training them to respect my space from the time I recognize their gender. I stop handling them, walk toward them and make them back up. If a cockerel is between me and where I want to be, I go where I want and he gets out of my way. If one challenges me, I look him in the eye and move toward him until he backs down. Sometimes I move them away from food or water just because I can. I have not had a problematic cockerel/rooster since I have started raising them that way. I personally will not make a pet of another cockerel. Yours is young yet - he may not have hit sexual maturity yet, which is often when those behaviors begin.

https://www.backyardchickens.com/articles/the-ever-misunderstood-rooster.72932/ Please read this, There is nothing wrong with handling roosters, They can be handled just as much as hens as long as they are fine with it.

 

[Folly's place]

Human aggression is separate genetically from flock protection and behaviors within the flock. But, it's not helpful to a cockerel who might be ambivalent about his place in society, human or otherwise, to think he's human. Then, he may try to dominate the people, as he will flockmates. There are cockerels who are so mellow that they will be fine regardless, but I'm totally with bobbi-j, and other experienced flock owners on this.
I've had roosters since my first flock arrived over 25 years ago, and so also have lots of experience. Hyper's quote says a lot "They can be handled as much as hens AS LONG AS THEY ARE FINE WITH IT"! My caps here. You bet! How do you find out? by being flogged?
My roosters are fine when held too! But they are not cuddly pets.
Mary

 

[bobbi-j]

https://www.backyardchickens.com/articles/the-ever-misunderstood-rooster.72932/ Please read this, There is nothing wrong with handling roosters, They can be handled just as much as hens as long as they are fine with it.

I did read it. Sometimes it works to handle them and often it doesn’t. There are no absolutes when raising animals. A rooster that’s been handled isn’t always going to be aggressive, but handled roosters aren’t always going to be tame, either.

The thing is, it seems that anyone can write about anything and post it as an “article”. That doesn’t mean it’s entirely accurate. Like anything else you read on the Internet, take it with a grain of salt.

I am sharing what I have learned over many years of experience and what has worked for me. I would be interested in knowing how much if that article (or any other of them, actually) are based on experience and how much is opinion or rewriting and passing along opinions written by others. I’d also be interested in knowing how many years you have been raising chickens.

 

[Folly's place]

We can all agree that chickens are not horses, or cattle, or hogs, etc. BUT there's a lot of history with them! Bottle raised bulls, stallions, or whatever, are much more likely to be very human aggressive as adults, because of their ambivalent species identity issues, and their lack or respect towards humans, and often, they just don't relate to their own species normally either. Individuals raised with a normal herd; young, adults, mama, and older males, are likely to be more 'sane', or whatever you want to call it.
Roosters raised in an adult flock are more likely to be better boys too,, and they learn early not to hassle the big adults! They also need to learn that humans are not chickens, and not part of the flock 'pecking order'.
Mary

 

[Hyper_Chicken05]

I did read it. Sometimes it works to handle them and often it doesn’t. There are no absolutes when raising animals. A rooster that’s been handled isn’t always going to be aggressive, but handled roosters aren’t always going to be tame, either.

The thing is, it seems that anyone can write about anything and post it as an “article”. That doesn’t mean it’s entirely accurate. Like anything else yiubread on the Internet, take it with a grain of salt.

I am sharing what I have learned over many years of experience and what has worked for me. I would be interested in knowing how much if that article (or any other of them, actually) are based on experience and how much is opinion or rewriting and passing along opinions written by others. I’d also be interested in knowing how many years you have been raising chickens.

I am just trying to say, I don't think roosters should be treated any different than an extra large hen. So what if they could turn on you, That shoulden't stop you from making a pet out of them. just like roosters that grew up together, Lots if them will still hang out and do stuff together. But if thr weaker roo tries to stel up againts the bigger roo, The bigger roo reminds the smaller that he's dominant. Just because there is a possibilty that the less-Dominant roo will try to take over, That doesn't stop the dominant roo from having a relationship with him.

You can be buddys with you rooster while remaining dominant.

 

[Hyper_Chicken05]

We can all agree that chickens are not horses, or cattle, or hogs, etc. BUT there's a lot of history with them! Bottle raised bulls, stallions, or whatever, are much more likely to be very human aggressive as adults, because of their ambivalent species identity issues, and their lack or respect towards humans, and often, they just don't relate to their own species normally either. Individuals raised with a normal herd; young, adults, mama, and older males, are likely to be more 'sane', or whatever you want to call it.
Roosters raised in an adult flock are more likely to be better boys too,, and they learn early not to hassle the big adults! They also need to learn that humans are not chickens, and not part of the flock 'pecking order'.
Mary

Yes, Humans are not chickens. But by invlolving yourself in the everyday lives of the flock & Becoming the caregiver for the flock automatically puts you in the role of flock leader/Head rooster.

Chickens will imprint on the owner as the caregiver, They will associate you with something that fulfills their needs. If your not part of the pecking order, Your either a predator Or just a random non-threat in the background. And if your the latter, Then you woulden't be caring for and feeding the flock.

 

[Hyper_Chicken05]

I did read it. Sometimes it works to handle them and often it doesn’t. There are no absolutes when raising animals. A rooster that’s been handled isn’t always going to be aggressive, but handled roosters aren’t always going to be tame, either.

The thing is, it seems that anyone can write about anything and post it as an “article”. That doesn’t mean it’s entirely accurate. Like anything else yiubread on the Internet, take it with a grain of salt.

I am sharing what I have learned over many years of experience and what has worked for me. I would be interested in knowing how much if that article (or any other of them, actually) are based on experience and how much is opinion or rewriting and passing along opinions written by others. I’d also be interested in knowing how many years you have been raising chickens.

Why does the amount of time matter? The experience doesn't come with time, It comes with how much your actaully willing to learn.

 

[Hyper_Chicken05]

@bobbi-j by"
The thing is, it seems that anyone can write about anything and post it as an “article”. That doesn’t mean it’s entirely accurate. Like anything else yiubread on the Internet, take it with a grain of salt" were you questioning the articles accuracy? (Not trying to sound offensive or anything)