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jj ranch isn't it terrible? I've gotten some pips now (6 I believe) but no zips yet! So when you're thinking you'll feel better after a few pips & a bit of noise think again.... LOL I'm still sort of sweating it out i.e. "are they STILL ok?" or "did they dry out right after"? or "why have the others not pipped yet?" I think I'm going to take the advice here to go "do something to take your mind off it." I might even go run some errands..... This sitting here watching the pot start to boil is nuts...