I would report them.
Should I turn them in? (Animal cruelty?)
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Turn them in. I complained to the local zoo that their chickens ere mangeled. They had only 2-3 chickens and a rooster. Poor thing were totally bare from being bred all the time.
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Exactly....
I would also like to point out that by turning them in for that you have made sure no other farm in the area will ever let that school on there farm.
Exactly....
I would also like to point out that by turning them in for that you have made sure no other farm in the area will ever let that school on there farm.
Totally.
- Apr 28, 2010
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My only major concern was pen #2 appeared to have no water. In cases such as these I've been known to find an employee and alert them when a creature is out of water.
Another good thing to do if one has the time or knows of anyone who does is offer to volunteer to help what may be an busy time of the year for this farm and offer to wash out the waterers once to several times a day to keep up appearances.
Another good thing to do if one has the time or knows of anyone who does is offer to volunteer to help what may be an busy time of the year for this farm and offer to wash out the waterers once to several times a day to keep up appearances.
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Thank you for the voice of reason. Any one who turns someone in, should have the decency to include their name and address.
If one is going to be judge and jury, one should not get to be anonymous. A lot of innocent people get hurt by these drive- by animal abuse accusations, without the accuser ever knowing the full story and remaining blissfully ignorant of the true damage they have done and the lives that will be destroyed by this "perceived act of kindness". Hey, maybe everyone on the farm, is soon to be unemployed and bankrupt. If so, those chickens that were being saved are now on the chopping block. Why didn't you just get some water and let the owner know you had issues instead of stabbing him in the back from the safety of your living room? You didn't even give them a chance to explain or rectify the situation. People who sit on high pedestals should look down once in awhile and see how far they have to fall.
Thank you for the voice of reason. Any one who turns someone in, should have the decency to include their name and address.
If one is going to be judge and jury, one should not get to be anonymous. A lot of innocent people get hurt by these drive- by animal abuse accusations, without the accuser ever knowing the full story and remaining blissfully ignorant of the true damage they have done and the lives that will be destroyed by this "perceived act of kindness". Hey, maybe everyone on the farm, is soon to be unemployed and bankrupt. If so, those chickens that were being saved are now on the chopping block. Why didn't you just get some water and let the owner know you had issues instead of stabbing him in the back from the safety of your living room? You didn't even give them a chance to explain or rectify the situation. People who sit on high pedestals should look down once in awhile and see how far they have to fall.
My thing is they should be setting the best example of cleanliness and conditions if they are gonna have kids over.
I try to set a good example for my kids on how to do your best management as far as animals are concerned.
I know its hard to keep things perfect with animals, but it should have been closer on visitor day for sure and there is
never a excuse for lack of water, its practically free. Write them a letter and let them know how you felt. These places
make money from tours and need to have satisified customers.
I try to set a good example for my kids on how to do your best management as far as animals are concerned.
I know its hard to keep things perfect with animals, but it should have been closer on visitor day for sure and there is
never a excuse for lack of water, its practically free. Write them a letter and let them know how you felt. These places
make money from tours and need to have satisified customers.
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woud strongly recommend contacting the owner of the place first and speaking to them,they will be greatful for having visitors tell them their concerns instead of dobbing them into the ASPCA [assuming they are the 'animal police' of america?].
its a lot more intrusive to have a animal inspector turn up,than a friendly/mannerly chat via phone/email etc,an animal inspector woud be the next step if nothing improves.
just because they get involved doesnt mean animals are going to get taken away,the majority of cases usualy just end up with constructive advice given and support-if its anything like the RSPCA over here anyway,they wont ever remove an animal unless its physicaly and behavioraly showing suffering.
our farm is actualy a semi-public farm for children and adults with autism,am service user of the organisation and one of the residents of the residential centre owned by the farm owner and also own a cat on the farm,called lottie.
lottie has her own 'HQ' [one of many beds to rest her weary head,though this is just hers]-a bungalow outhouse type building,she has a big 'cat tree' in there which she and her crew of tomfriends use,she sometimes rests in there when she wants a bit of quiet and she ocasionaly gets some extra food off service users in there.
the outhouse is also used to temperarily hold smaller animals for sometime in the day,for various reasons-people learning to interact with them,people learning to groom,people petting them for animal therapy,animals that have been injured/sick and need a quiet place seperated from others, and also because we have a wireless IP-CCTV camera in there so farm staff will often put animals in one of the stalls so we can watch them on the camera.
this is a screenshot that have just taken of it: http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/7958/farmcamnight.jpg -the lifelike horse in the corner stall is fake [the same as those used in equestrian/tack shops],its used to teach horse management.
-well meaning people have asked why lottie has no beds in there,if they had of had insight they woud know that had spent a lot of money on buying all different kinds of cat beds and she turned her nose up at all of them,prefering the hay instead.
have also heard complaints about the size of the stalls in there,people who dont know the farm dont realise they arent in there all day,some are kept in the fields and some in extra large stables in an indoor block.
will personaly bring any concerns up if think something isnt right,as its better to be wrong and look like an idiot than to let something go and end up with animals in distress.
like the other week,was totaly confused to turn up to lotties house to see a ring necked dove in a large cat carrier,the doors and window were all shut so cats coudnt get in,this bird looked like it had a broken neck,its head was upside down and it was walking wobbly,bugged support staff to phone the farm owner and it turned out to be PMV which a farm volunteer was paying for the treatment of and looking after.
the owner knows am totaly militant about animal welfare and she is to.
sorry for waffling on,but am just trying to say it isnt always what it looks like,but its a good thing to look out for animals,just word it carefuly how talk to the farm owner/staff.
woud strongly recommend contacting the owner of the place first and speaking to them,they will be greatful for having visitors tell them their concerns instead of dobbing them into the ASPCA [assuming they are the 'animal police' of america?].
its a lot more intrusive to have a animal inspector turn up,than a friendly/mannerly chat via phone/email etc,an animal inspector woud be the next step if nothing improves.
just because they get involved doesnt mean animals are going to get taken away,the majority of cases usualy just end up with constructive advice given and support-if its anything like the RSPCA over here anyway,they wont ever remove an animal unless its physicaly and behavioraly showing suffering.
our farm is actualy a semi-public farm for children and adults with autism,am service user of the organisation and one of the residents of the residential centre owned by the farm owner and also own a cat on the farm,called lottie.
lottie has her own 'HQ' [one of many beds to rest her weary head,though this is just hers]-a bungalow outhouse type building,she has a big 'cat tree' in there which she and her crew of tomfriends use,she sometimes rests in there when she wants a bit of quiet and she ocasionaly gets some extra food off service users in there.
the outhouse is also used to temperarily hold smaller animals for sometime in the day,for various reasons-people learning to interact with them,people learning to groom,people petting them for animal therapy,animals that have been injured/sick and need a quiet place seperated from others, and also because we have a wireless IP-CCTV camera in there so farm staff will often put animals in one of the stalls so we can watch them on the camera.
this is a screenshot that have just taken of it: http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/7958/farmcamnight.jpg -the lifelike horse in the corner stall is fake [the same as those used in equestrian/tack shops],its used to teach horse management.
-well meaning people have asked why lottie has no beds in there,if they had of had insight they woud know that had spent a lot of money on buying all different kinds of cat beds and she turned her nose up at all of them,prefering the hay instead.
have also heard complaints about the size of the stalls in there,people who dont know the farm dont realise they arent in there all day,some are kept in the fields and some in extra large stables in an indoor block.
will personaly bring any concerns up if think something isnt right,as its better to be wrong and look like an idiot than to let something go and end up with animals in distress.
like the other week,was totaly confused to turn up to lotties house to see a ring necked dove in a large cat carrier,the doors and window were all shut so cats coudnt get in,this bird looked like it had a broken neck,its head was upside down and it was walking wobbly,bugged support staff to phone the farm owner and it turned out to be PMV which a farm volunteer was paying for the treatment of and looking after.
the owner knows am totaly militant about animal welfare and she is to.
sorry for waffling on,but am just trying to say it isnt always what it looks like,but its a good thing to look out for animals,just word it carefuly how talk to the farm owner/staff.
For me, personally, I would have gone there a few more times during different times of the day to really make sure it that they really are living poorly and not that it was just before cleaning or feeding time. A lot of times, you clean a pen and refresh all the food and water and a half hour later, it's entirely filthy again. It's also possible that the animals aren't in those pens 100% of the time, but only when the place is open for visitors.
I would politely inquire the owner or caretaker about how often the animals are fed, if they're taken out of the pens, etc, in a non-confrontational way before going any further. I wouldn't make a big deal in front of them because if inspectors do come to check up on the animals, they will remember who they had a problem with earlier.
I would politely inquire the owner or caretaker about how often the animals are fed, if they're taken out of the pens, etc, in a non-confrontational way before going any further. I wouldn't make a big deal in front of them because if inspectors do come to check up on the animals, they will remember who they had a problem with earlier.
what ever happened to just being polite and speaking to whoever is in charge and giving them a chance to address, remedy the situation, and if you then see nothing being done about it then get someone in authority involved... my 2 cents...
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