Should they all be treated for tapeworm?

[cafarmgirl]

Thanks! So it is not good to do it during a molt? My girls are about finished, but one roo is in the midst of a molt.

What dewormer(s) do you use?

Apparently Safeguard can cause issues with the feathers if it is used during a molt so when I am using that I just do so in early winter after they've finished or I use that one in the spring when nobody is molting anyway. I use the liquid Safeguard goat dewomer and I also use Valbazen.

 

[katelk]

Many sites say that both Valbazen and Safeguard will treat tapes, but some members like Dawg53 have said it doesn't always work. I haven't had to deal with tapes, so I can't comment on it's actual efficacy. Pretty sure that praziquantel will treat *all* species of tapes, so I would probably use both if I suspected tapes. One first, then the other. Is there any chance you could collect up a bunch of fresh poop, put it in a zip-zock baggie, mix well and take to a vet for a fecal float?

-Kathy

Well the necropsy I just had done on a pullet that died turned up tapeworms. So I know tapeworms are present.

I also just read that for a first time deworming, wazine should be used first to get the round worms so that there isn't a worm clog from everything coming out at once.

So I now need to use Wazine, then fish tape, then Valbazen.

It seems like a lot of chemicals being pumped into my girls. What type of administration schedule would you recommend with this situation?

 

[casportpony]

Quote: Ignore those posts about Wazine, just get the Valbazen and the praziquantel. FWIW, I have never used Wazine, even on birds that haven't been wormed in years.

-Kathy

 

[casportpony]

If you get a fecal done and it finds just tapes, then worm for just tapes. Make sense? Fecal should cost less than $25.

-Kathy

 

[katelk]

If you get a fecal done and it finds just tapes, then worm for just tapes. Make sense? Fecal should cost less than $25.

-Kathy

Ok makes sense. So if I am going to start worming like twice a year (it seems that is the norm?) how long after using the fish tape can I use the valbazen?

 

[casportpony]

Here is another Praziquantel dosing source:

From: http://media.johnwiley.com.au/product_data/excerpt/57/04709596/0470959657-1.pdf
BIRDS:
For susceptible parasites (tapeworms):
a) ¼ of one 23 mg tablet/kg PO; repeat in 10–14 days. Add to feed or give by gavage. Injectable form is toxic to finches. (Clubb 1986)
b) For common tapeworms in chickens: 10 mg/kg (Roberson 1988)
c) For cestodes and some trematodes: Direct dose: 5–10 mg/kg PO or IM as a single dose -or- 12 mg of crushed tablets baked into a 9"x9"x2" cake. Finches should have their regular food withheld and be pre-exposed to a non-medicated cake. (Marshall 1993)

That's works out to 4.54mg per pound.

-Kathy

 

[casportpony]

Pictures:
Praziquantel Info from Plumb's Veterinary Drug Handbook.













-Kathy

 

[theartsypaul]

Pills would be better. Just grab chicken at night, open beak and give pill(s).  You will have to guess their weigts and figure out how many pills to give them.

This might be a better one to give:
http://www.revivalanimal.com/Fish-T...c31350_d_155&gclid=CPaahczpp8ICFQqDfgod4k8AsA

The amount of praziquantel in it is almost 7 times more than the other one (34 mg vs 5 mg), so one pill is all you would need to treat a 6.5 pound bird vs 6 of the other.

-Kathy

Why do they call it fish tapes? Can you give a fish a pill? Do we open the capsules and give to chicken or just put the capsule in the chickens mouth? How do we make sure they swallow it?

 

[theartsypaul]

Pills would be better. Just grab chicken at night, open beak and give pill(s).  You will have to guess their weigts and figure out how many pills to give them.

This might be a better one to give:
http://www.revivalanimal.com/Fish-T...c31350_d_155&gclid=CPaahczpp8ICFQqDfgod4k8AsA

The amount of praziquantel in it is almost 7 times more than the other one (34 mg vs 5 mg), so one pill is all you would need to treat a 6.5 pound bird vs 6 of the other.

-Kathy

You just drop the capsule in their mouth? How do you keep them from spitting it out? Can you open the capsule and drop the powder in their mouth? Sorry didn't realize I was quoting the same thread

 

[Sonya9]

You just drop the capsule in their mouth? How do you keep them from spitting it out? Can you open the capsule and drop the powder in their mouth? Sorry didn't realize I was quoting the same thread

I would wrap the capsule (or the powder) in a small treat that can be swallowed at once. A tiny piece of soft bread can work.

If you have a large flock it can be tricky to get each bird to eat the treat, but that is much easier than opening their beaks and shoving pills down their throat.