Show off your Delawares! *PIC HEAVY*

[Stevenson]

Is the youtube on this thread? It doesn't show up for me at all.

That is pretty funny. Here is your reply on my screen:



Here is the link:

 

[kathyinmo]

I will go look at it. This is just weird! Why can't I see the youtube?

edit..... I switched to Chrome and I can see it now. On Firefox, it was blank. So weird, this site is.

 

[Stevenson]

I will go look at it. This is just weird! Why can't I see the youtube?

edit..... I switched to Chrome and I can see it now. On Firefox, it was blank. So weird, this site is.

That is wierd...I am using Firefox also and it is working for me.

 

[capayvalleychick]

I use Firefox and it worked fine for me. That's the first time I've seen a video on BYC. Good job!
I love those wide body Dels! That brassiness is unfortunate but looks like they have great size.

Those are Harter Dels, right? I spoke with him and asked him about his strain and he hasn't used any other breeds in his Delaware breeding. So, can the NH color be showing up many generations later? Or is brassiness simply a defect that can show up and not be the result of another breed's influence?

Kim

 

[kathyinmo]

I use Firefox and it worked fine for me. That's the first time I've seen a video on BYC. Good job!
I love those wide body Dels! That brassiness is unfortunate but looks like they have great size.

Those are Harter Dels, right? I spoke with him and asked him about his strain and he hasn't used any other breeds in his Delaware breeding. So, can the NH color be showing up many generations later? Or is brassiness simply a defect that can show up and not be the result of another breed's influence?

Kim

I don't think the yellowing has anything to do with the New Hampshire background. I could be wrong, but it seems to me it is a problem in other white birds, too.

 

[DelDels]

I don't think the yellowing has anything to do with the New Hampshire background. I could be wrong, but it seems to me it is a problem in other white birds, too.

Yes, I think you may be right. Could we get some of the old time experts like Walt or Bob Belosi and others to come and post what their opinion of this brassiness is? It would help us all make better selections.

 

[catdaddyfro]

I don't think the yellowing has anything to do with the New Hampshire background. I could be wrong, but it seems to me it is a problem in other white birds, too.

Oh the old dreaded yellowing/brassiness creeping out in the ol Delaware question. It seems to me there are quite a few different reasons for this horrid trait the pops up in the breed and some are still up in the air on this subject. I've read and seen such stuff as recessive white causing such to bleed through(?), Diet/feed(for sure on some), Out-crossing the Delaware with different breeds also WILL cause such, and environment(another big?) on this one too. I know for sure that the diet(xanthophyll/carotenoids) such as corn, green vegitation, can cause this yellowing to occur (esp) on the males and just on their sex feathers too(ie...Hackle, saddle,wing bows and bars,all of which is considered their pyle zone) there's something to this too, as all these feathers are of a different conformity than the rest of the body plumage with the exception of the sickles in the tail and the reason it doesn't show up on these on the Delawares is because they are dark (grey, black, green and some purple). It has to do with the oils from the oil gland that stains these feathers after a time because if these feathers were supposed to be this color they would come out of the follicle colored as such, the base color should not change but with the exception of fading from sun and wear. Feathers are just the same as hair and finger nails and such and they are created by dead proteins.

Now onto the out-crossing which was/is done at the hatcheries because of the shortage of Delawares and to keep up with supply and demand the factories would/might still do cross Delaware males onto Columbian pattern females and Red females (RIR,Production reds, and New Hampshire and no telling what or who else they could) and/to produce a clone look-a-like Delaware patterned birds. This is where the a lot of the yellow/brassiness is leaking through generations later down the line and even on some you can even find red/rusty feathers throughout the body plumage esp on the females , (colored this way from creation in the follicle) not just on the male sex feathers stained from the oils, sun, weathering, fading,wear, dirt, so on and so forth that goes along with normal everyday activities.

I got to get back to work or I'd elaborate more here, I might can get on later and give a little more of my hypothesis on the brassiness but short on time now and there are a few other post I really want to get in on while its hot on my mind, cause inquiring minds just got to know stuff and esp while the topics are on the front burners at the time, get my drift , too much going on all at once which is normal for me. I got lots of irons in the fire so to say.

Oh I have to say too, Mrs. Kathy the 2 Delaware girls are just amazingly beautiful (well so do the NH girls too but that's for another thread but not left out for sure) they are all super looking right at this age, right now you can tell they are soon to be layers and right at POL is when the girls always look there best too.

Jeff

 

[kathyinmo]

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Oh I have to say too, Mrs. Kathy the 2 Delaware girls are just amazingly beautiful (well so do the NH girls too but that's for another thread but not left out for sure) they are all super looking right at this age, right now you can tell they are soon to be layers and right at POL is when the girls always look there best too.

Jeff

Oh good! I am glad to hear that!

 

[nicalandia]

Oh the old dreaded yellowing/brassiness creeping out in the ol Delaware question. It seems to me there are quite a few different reasons for this horrid trait the pops up in the breed and some are still up in the air on this subject. I've read and seen such stuff as recessive white causing such to bleed through(?)

Jeff

No recessive white on Delawares... just plain old dominant sex link silver..

 

[catdaddyfro]

No recessive white on Delawares... just plain old dominant sex link silver..

I agree BUT.....what does a outcrossed Delaware look-a-like have lurking in their background(ie recessive white,red/mahogany) was/is the case in point here. True to breed Delawares should not turn yellow/brassy genetically no matter what, now the other 2 factors environment,& feed, I can see this causing the yellowness, it does it on most other white plumed birds too.

Jeff