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Does anyone know what kind of gamefowl this is and if so, does anyone know of a breeder near Lansing MI.
Grey... and because he has golden shoulders some people would say hatch grey (cross breed of Red with Grey). Golden duckwing is also correct. I would suspect a cross bred American Gamefowl... no way to know what breeder/strain without history. I see yellow legs....

This is my young Grey stag... will look exactly like him when he gets older... Mine is a cross breed.
 
It really is perception and brainwashing of society.... when I was a kid it was 1st the German Shepherds that where "mean" because they where police/military dogs and idiots would train their pets to be "bad ***", then Dobbies became the in breed to slander or mis train or mis use and mis breed so they where all over the news as "bad", now it is the Pits... but it is 100% true any breed can be an out of control dog (I have dealt with more small dogs that where dangerous than big, because owners of small breeds will keep a dog that bites and blame the aggression on the big scary world rather than train them or realize something is wrong with their dogs mental health).

I was shocked recently when one of my co-workers accused me of having a "dangerous attack dog" at my house over breed, the dog in question is a German Shepherd, my co-worker adamantly believes all German Shepherds are military/police dogs and are like loaded guns and only the Government should own them and if private citizens own them they should have extra special regulations to follow and extra permit fees and so on... talk about a breed phobia, and some day my dog will kill someone... he has never met my husband's dog, which is btw a Service Dog to help him with his physical issues and hearing issues... she will never bite anyone. Anyway my point is my dog is "evil" because of perception, but the mini poodle that chases people and tries to bite people is just misunderstood.

I think it is the same thing with Chickens... everyone "assumes" Games are "mean", but the reality is different.
 
@birdman55 I've been saying the same thing for years "any dog can be mean"

Beautiful dogs & nice looking pen...this is Bluebelle, part-time couch potato, full-time security detail in & outside (along with 2 of our coonhounds outside)-not 100% effective with all predators, but do a good job...just wish they would bay chicken snakes
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Could you tell me more about coonhounds, I looked into them before but I've read that you can't let them off-leash because when they catch a scent, they follow it and won't listen to commands. Sorry if this is off topic, but I like coonhounds and would like a dog that stays with me off-leash when I take walks or do outside chores.
 
Could you tell me more about coonhounds, I looked into them before but I've read that you can't let them off-leash because when they catch a scent, they follow it and won't listen to commands. Sorry if this is off topic, but I like coonhounds and would like a dog that stays with me off-leash when I take walks or do outside chores.

Had a coonhound when I was young. A Walker. Name was, "Drum" and he deserved it (deep resounding bark). Awesome dog. He was a trained coonhound that had to be kept on a lease, because he would run off and never come back. This was without a doubt, the effect of his training, and not his breed. He was given to my father already grown and trained. Had he been raised by me, he would not have needed to be kept on a leash. I have trained several hunting dogs that were great hunters and none of them had to be kept on a leash to keep them from running off. My best dog ever was named Pepe. He was of the ancient Mayan breed. He was given to my sister as birthday present in Mayan village in the Yucatan, but he became my dog. Hands down the smartest dog I have ever seen. He was built very much like a Pitt but with a longer snout.
 
Grey... and because he has golden shoulders some people would say hatch grey (cross breed of Red with Grey). Golden duckwing is also correct. I would suspect a cross bred American Gamefowl... no way to know what breeder/strain without history. I see yellow legs....

This is my young Grey stag... will look exactly like him when he gets older... Mine is a cross breed.


Nice cockerel you have there. Raised a couple like that last year. So far I have not been able to produce one that looks like my brood cock. He is just one of a kind.

 
Could you tell me more about coonhounds, I looked into them before but I've read that you can't let them off-leash because when they catch a scent, they follow it and won't listen to commands. Sorry if this is off topic, but I like coonhounds and would like a dog that stays with me off-leash when I take walks or do outside chores.

As far as staying with you while doing chores, if your place is fenced, should be no problem. Getting one as a puppy largely gives you a blank canvas to work with. They do need training though. We call it "getting a handle". Some breeds, or some individual dogs, for that matter, can be more determined (hard-headed) than others. Certain traits just go along with the type of dogs they are. I don't really know what to tell you as far as taking it for a walk off-leash, as far as experience. I would like to think they could be trained to do whatever you want, but I'm not familiar with them in that capacity. They can be trained to come when called--I've seen that. You should also be prepared, or warned about their mouth. They can be great varmint dogs, & if allowed, they will let you know (loudly) if they tree something (rat, possum, coon, house cat) trying to get chickens or just on your property or trying to get on your property. You might check out some videos on You Tube (if you haven't already) & get a feel of what you could hear. Those videos will likely be hunting videos, but you can see what they do.

Here's our Chief Yard dog with my grandson. We currently have 3 Treeing Walkers, an older Beagle (my pet) & a half Walker/half Black & Tan pup I'm starting to train (among several other breeds of dogs). Our dogs are pretty good at barking at anyone or anything that nears our fence. It can be aggravating at times (think boy who cried wolf) but I'm glad to have them because my boyfriend works away some of the time. I've even shot a couple of coons myself before when they've treed on a chicken pen, but I don't shoot without a clear shot. At the very least, the dogs let the varmints know they are around.
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Had a coonhound when I was young. A Walker.  Name was, "Drum" and he deserved it (deep resounding bark).  Awesome dog.  He was a trained coonhound that had to be kept on a lease, because he would run off and never come back.  This was without a doubt, the effect of his training, and not his breed.  He was given to my father already grown and trained.  Had he been raised by me, he would not have needed to be kept on a leash.  I have trained several hunting dogs that were great hunters and none of them had to be kept on a leash to keep them from running off.  My best dog ever was named Pepe.  He was of the ancient Mayan breed. He was given to my sister as birthday present in Mayan village in the Yucatan, but he became my dog.  Hands down the smartest dog I have ever seen.  He was built very much like a Pitt but with a longer snout.  

Our first Walker, Mac, was a jam-up, awesome dog from the start. Only a couple months old he was all over caged coons. Had the most awesome, super-long bawl mouth that carried forever. He was stolen at 18 mos of age. We were devastated. Next best Walker, Rowdy, Mac's half-brother, also about 18 mos old, was taken while out hunting. A friend found his collar on the side of the road & called us.

This horn is what my boyfriend's father used to call dogs in with. That's how I know they can be trained to come on command.
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Our first Walker, Mac, was a jam-up, awesome dog from the start. Only a couple months old he was all over caged coons. Had the most awesome, super-long bawl mouth that carried forever. He was stolen at 18 mos of age. We were devastated. Next best Walker, Rowdy, Mac's half-brother, also about 18 mos old, was taken while out hunting. A friend found his collar on the side of the road & called us.

This horn is what my boyfriend's father used to call dogs in with. That's how I know they can be trained to come on command.


We used to run coon with Drum. It was awesome. We would go out to a remote forest about midnight and let Drum out. Drum would take off, nose to the ground, into the darkness and we would just wait. Every now and then, Drum would let out a deep long bay to let us know where he was. When he found a coon trail he would let out a little shorter bays that were about a 20 seconds apart. We would all take off running through the dark, crossing fences and streams, climbing cliffs. It was great. As Drum got closer to the coon his baying would get closer together. That is when the race was on. We had to get to him soon because Walkers have much longer legs then other breeds of coonhounds, and they often catch the coon on the ground, which results in a fight that could leave him injured. When he treed the coon, he would let out short fast bays. Then you had to run flat out to get there before the coon decided to tap a tree. It is one of the funnest things you will ever do. Unfortunately today, it is rare that you can find a piece of land large enough to do it on. Back in those days (I am revealing my age here), land owners were not this over protective, paranoid, greedy breed of humans like what we have today. You could run your dogs over ten different properties chasing a coon and no one would think anything or that it was even odd. They understood that once the coonhound is let out, the chase goes where the coon leads.

For those that might question the ethics of coon hunting (killing an animal for sport alone). I don't hunt anything I do not eat. Raccoon is delicious. I would not eat these city coons, but a coon that is out in the forest is fine to eat.
 
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We used to run coon with Drum.  It was awesome.  We would go out to a remote forest about midnight and let Drum out.  Drum would take off, nose to the ground, into the darkness and we would just wait.  Every now and then, Drum would let out a deep long bark to let us know where he was.  When he found a coon trail he would let out a little shorter barks that were about a 20 seconds apart.  We would all take off running through the dark, crossing fences and streams, climbing cliffs.  It was great.  As Drum got closer to the coon his barking would get closer together.  That is when the race was on.  We had to get to him soon because Walkers have much longer legs then other breeds of coonhounds, and they often catch the coon on the ground, which results in a fight that could leave him injured.  When he treed the coon, he would let out short fast barks.  Then you had to run flat out to get there before the coon decided to tap a tree.  It is one of the funnest things you will ever do.  Unfortunately today, it is rare that you can find a piece of land large enough to do it on.  Back in those days (I am revealing my age here), land owners were not this over protective, paranoid, greedy breed of humans like what we have today.  You could run your dogs over ten different properties chasing a coon and no one would think anything or that it was even odd.  They understood that once the coonhound is let out, the chase goes where the coon leads.

For those that might question the ethics of coon hunting (killing an animal for sport alone).  I don't hunt anything I do not eat.  Raccoon is delicious.  I would not eat these city coons, but a coon that is out in the forest is fine to eat.

My first exposure to coon hunting was with this man I'm with now (I was considered a "city girl"). I've been hunting with him numerous times over the years & have helped train pups. For the record, I don't really like killing for the heck of it or letting the dogs fight a live coon but I don't want them getting my chickens lol. As far as the hunting, I just like to sit by a fire & hear them run You might like this...this is Mac that I spoke of.
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