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[vegaschick]

Hope this is the right place to come to for answers. I was given a hen and chicks that an aquaintence found in their front yard (they had them for about 1-2 wks). That was about mid-July. I am quite curious as to what breed she is and whether the chicks are male or female. I think she's some type of game, and found a pic of a hen on feathersite that looked just like her. She looks like "Persephone," a Dark Grey OEG hen, to me. http://www.feathersite.com/Poultry/Games/BRKGames.html

My new hen. She's a really great momma!

Her 2 chicks. The dark one is actually a bit smaller than the other.

I can post more detailed pics if needed. Please help if you can. Thanks.

 

[G&G Game Farm]

G&G Game Farm :

Hi

Please post any pictures or information on Thompson White Gamefowl. I will be getting a pair of these next weekend and know nothing about them.

G&G Game Farm

Here is a picture of the young male I got this weekend. He is only 2 months old.

G&G Game Farm​

 

[1_FnkyFrm]

Good looking stag! Cant wait to see pics when he gets bigger....

 

[Greybear23]

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I would say you definitely have a Dark Grey Gamefowl Hen and two young Roosters or stags or cockerels whichever you want to call them, they look to have been cross bred with a Red Gamefowl of some sort with white legs maybe and if it were me I would save the Black chick back and breed him back to his mother to get me some nice Dark Greys started. JMO, Lynn in Okla.

 

[DTchickens]

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Your birds are American Gamefowl. Whatever the father was, is most likely red. I would assume somewhere probably along the lines of a roundhead based off of the looks of the pullet (the wheaten chick, far left) which is pretty much identical to one I have in my pen now (assuming she has white legs like I believe, they're not blue are they?) As for the hen, she could be black/grey, but I think she looks close to a brassyback too, though is a dark one. Which could explain why the stag was thrown black instead of a black/greyish color.

If you truly wanted to find out their genetics, you could breed the stag back to his mother- or a better way is mating him to his sister (assuming they're full brother and sister, the traits would be intensified, but if they have different fathers, or she may not even be her true mother it would be pointless.) And before anyone even tells me you aren't supposed to breed brother and sister - I know. I followed that for a long time, because I didn't want to bring up unwanted traits. But one day, I did happen to have a accidental mating and the stag and pullets out of that mating were even better than the broodstock itself in my opinion. So I did the same mating this year, and got some very fine pullets which I intended to breed back to their father but lost the main cock. I've told the story to some about last years stock..

So in my opinion, if you have good stock to start with intensifying the traits is not always a bad thing (it can be, but you never truly know until tested). But I don't encourage continuous breeding of brother/sister matings. I think they would eventually turn out badly.

 

[Greybear23]

Have a question for DT Chickens, you say that your Roundhead has white legs, is this true for all Roundheads or just the line you have, I have a couple of hens I am not sure of but was thinking they were Hatch blood but the one looks Roundhead to me but I think she has Yellow legs! May be able to post some pics of the two, don;t know about the quality of the picks but will try, if anyone could identify them or has ideas please feel free to comment, and as for the two chicks in the pics of the dark grey I was looking at the tail on the Wheaton colored on it sure looks to have some curve to it and is carrying its wings low I think, thanks, Lynn in Okla.

I know these are not too good a pics but all I have at the time hope yall can help, Lynn

 

[DTchickens]

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Most of the common Roundhead's now days do have white legs. Especially in the Lacy's, which I have never seen a yellow legged one to my remembrance. The line we had, were Shelton's which were white legged.. But if you venture into the Allen Roundhead (which is the same line as the Shelton's, or were at once because Shelton and Allen were partners from what I hear), I believe some (or all?) of the Jarret Spangled Roundheads, Bostons, etc. You can find yellow legged birds too, which the original Roundhead fowl (the Boston's) which were shipped from England to Boston New York were yellow legged to begin with.

With your hen it is impossible to tell a lot of the times, I may could look at her in a good photo and give a close clue to what she could be. But there are many breeds that look wheaten, with a pea comb (assuming she has one) and yellow legs. Some are - Sweater, Roundhead, Yellow Legged Hatch, Kelso, Albany, etc.. That is why most gamefowl breeders say the best thing to do, is try to find good honest breeders and go by what they say. If you like them, that is all that matters. It is fun sometimes to try and "preserve" the old fowl of longtime gone breeders. But unless you followed their selections of breeding and such, it would most likely be different anyway and nothing but a look-alike of the original birds assuming you didn't select for different looks.

-Daniel

 

[Greybear23]

Daniel thanks so much for your reply, I know the pics were not that great, I am really busy this week withthe county fair and will try to post some better pics later, Do you know anything about the Hugh Norman Spangled Roundheads? I at one time has a trio and bred them untill the old cock died after a pen fight with one of his sons at the age of 15 years old, they were mostly whited out with brown, red and black spots all over. Would anyone know where I could get a start of them again, I really loved them but gave them up just before Oklahoma went illegal on the Cockfighting. I do not wish to fight anymore but would love to find a nice young trio to breed from and have around for old time sake, also had some black or mulberry faced Brown reds, can't remember the blood lines but would really like a young trio of some like them also,thanks all, Lynn in Okla

 

[vegaschick]

Thanks for all your knowledgable replies. Just so I can understand what to look for...what is it that indicates the gender of the chicks? I do think I see a slight tail curve on the wheaton but what is it that informs on the black chick?

Here are the legs as there were questions regarding their color and a couple more pics of the wheaton to maybe make the gender clearer...?

Oh, and what is it that says "American" vs. "OE"?

Just looking to learn. Again, thanks for the info.

 

[DTchickens]

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I don't know of any spangled roundheads that Hugh Norman had. I only knew of the Lacy's that my father had, which were supposed to be some of the best Roundheads he had ever seen. The only man I know who has them now, assuming he still has them, is Slipspur gamefarm.. You can find him at steelgame.net I believe, but I'm not sure if he would let 'em go or not.