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[centrarchid]

Lynn,

Covering red females (Hatch or Roundhed) with a Silver Duckwing male will result in grey pullets and golden duckwing stags. If you breed grey pullets back to silver duckwing male, then resulting backross will yield silver duckwing stags only and grey pullets.

If your "silver" duckwing is actually golden, then you will get 50% of stags as golden duckwing and 50% red with same pattern for pullets.

Remember, silver duckwing cock carries two copies of grey gene while golden carries only one. Hen can carry only one or zero copis of grey gene.

 

[Greybear23]

Thank you so much, I so want to get me some Silver Duckwing (Grey) games that breed true to color pattern, Is this possible in Gamefowl from "Sporting" breeders? Lynn

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[centrarchid]

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Yes, silver duckwing games within "sporting" lines are out there. Most "sporting" folks with greys have golden duckwings that throw a percentage of silver duckings with each generation. We used to have such in our lines but silver duckwings were never selected for. If memory serves, silver duckwings tended to be large and slow maturing. This may not have a function of the grey gene but rather some genes linked closely to it in out gene pool. We preferred red to be a part of every mating so golden duckwing more prevalent than would be if matings random. At that time I was not responsible for making breeding arrangements and did not have a handle on logic used (too young).

 

[DTchickens]

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Use a hatch bird, if you use Roundheads/claret/kelsos which are primarily Wheaten hens. Unless the silver duckwing cock changes it, you are more likely to get Silver Wheatens.

Silver wheaten hen, this line will throw both the duckwing fowl and wheaten grey's.

-Daniel

 

[centrarchid]

The wheaten business must be why we got two types of "grey" hens, grey (some brown) and pale grey (almost no brown). Wheaten I think came in with our grey rooster blood because we never saw wheaten prior.

 

[gallorojo]

Yes, silver duckwing games within "sporting" lines are out there. Most "sporting" folks with greys have golden duckwings that throw a percentage of silver duckings with each generation. We used to have such in our lines but silver duckwings were never selected for. If memory serves, silver duckwings tended to be large and slow maturing. This may not have a function of the grey gene but rather some genes linked closely to it in out gene pool. We preferred red to be a part of every mating so golden duckwing more prevalent than would be if matings random. At that time I was not responsible for making breeding arrangements and did not have a handle on logic used (too young).

Centarchid-the above comment intrigues me. I have seen a correlation between an extreme slow feathering and the silver gene, in males only, although, the female must carry it, as I started with only one silver wheaten female, and all of her golden offspring feather out very very slowly compared to a red. This has appeared in grandsons outcrossed to a different breed even. When you saw the slow maturation in your silver duckwings, did you see any slower feather growth as well? Thanks.​

 

[centrarchid]

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Centarchid-the above comment intrigues me. I have seen a correlation between an extreme slow feathering and the silver gene, in males only, although, the female must carry it, as I started with only one silver wheaten female, and all of her golden offspring feather out very very slowly compared to a red. This has appeared in grandsons outcrossed to a different breed even. When you saw the slow maturation in your silver duckwings, did you see any slower feather growth as well? Thanks.

I did not see slow feathering phenotype within our line. The slow maturing was in respect to muscle development. Birds were big in frame but slow to fill out like some of the larger meat and dual purpose breeds. I am familiar with such in my American dominiques where two versions exist. One slow which seems typical for breed and other very slow that one hatchery seems to have fixed to facilitate feather sexing.

 

[Vcomb]

throwbacks out of our redquills:

2010 purple devil non-naked necked hennies:

2010 gull-whitehackle x:

One of the first gamecocks I ever raised:

he was 1/2 whitehackle 1/4 lacy roundhead 1/4 asil

 

[centrarchid]

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Vcomb,

Thanks for post above and pictures of your redquils on your website. Enabled me to figure out color genetics of what we have been calling brownred for some time. I have redquil as well and when a pullet pops up like first of the is pullet, I will now assume has wheaten color pattern as well.

 

[Vcomb]

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These redquills carry the blood of a wheaton colored line called Murphy whitehackles. So it is not commonly found in redquills, however it can happen from time to time. The stag in the picture is close to a brown breasted brown red, but he is carp legged (meaning the green and yellow mottling pattern you see)