Show Off Your Games!

[prariechiken]

It goes back farther than just "Old English Games" when it comes to American Gamefowl. All types of Bankiva fowl...Irish, Spanish, and the Oriental gamefowls have all been infused in various ways and in some strains. And Darwin's theory on the red jungle fowl being responsible for our birds has been unsupported recently by genetic mapping that has shown the grey jungle fowl also played a major role in the creation of what we know as the "chicken". So how many of you have grey jungle fowl colored American Games .

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/02/080229102059.htm

 

[centrarchid]

It goes back farther than just "Old English Games" when it comes to American Gamefowl.  All types of Bankiva fowl...Irish, Spanish, and the Oriental gamefowls have all been infused in various ways and in some strains.  And Darwin's theory on the red jungle fowl being responsible for our birds has been unsupported recently by genetic mapping that has shown the grey jungle fowl also played a major role in the creation of what we know as the "chicken".  So how many of you have grey jungle fowl colored American Games .

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/02/080229102059.htm

The more basic black-breasted reds do not show a lot of influence coming from grey ancestry. Most of the non-red jungle coloration appears to be derived from mutations with the exception of yellow skin. Despite this I have no problem with estimate of the chickens genetic background being derived from infusion of about 15% grey early in the domestication process. Same phenomenon that reduces fertility of early generation hybrids would would also speed accruing of novel alleles not possessed by either red or grey jungle fowl which make today's chickens more than just a hybrid, especially after the human's hand has been involved in the selection process for so long.

 

[JShubin]

It goes back farther than just "Old English Games" when it comes to American Gamefowl. All types of Bankiva fowl...Irish, Spanish, and the Oriental gamefowls have all been infused in various ways and in some strains. And Darwin's theory on the red jungle fowl being responsible for our birds has been unsupported recently by genetic mapping that has shown the grey jungle fowl also played a major role in the creation of what we know as the "chicken". So how many of you have grey jungle fowl colored American Games .

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/02/080229102059.htm

I read that article about the grey jungle fowl a while back.. (I am obssessed science/tech articles almost as much as I am obssessed with chickens). Very interesting and thanks for sharing

I am curious to know if slate legged games possess the yellow skin gene?

What if the yellow skin was just mutation aquired thru selective breeding? Obviously the green and red jungle fowl have a common ansector, which makes it possible that the red jungle fowl could also evolve (selectively bred) to have the same genes for yellow leg, just like the green jungle fowl did. Its common in the animal kingdom, for example humans had the gene for blond hair appear in two distinct populations of humans, one in Europe and the other in the Pacific Islands. This could make it possible that no grey jungle fowl was used in the original domestic chicken.

Just a possible theory.. I am no Scientist.

 

[JShubin]

Here is an iteresting project I saw about cross breeding chickens from all over the globe.

The Cosmopolitan Chicken... http://koenvanmechelen.be/cosmopolitan-chicken-project

 

[centrarchid]

I read that article about the grey jungle fowl a while back.. (I am obssessed science/tech articles almost as much as I am obssessed with chickens). Very interesting and thanks for sharing

I am curious to know if slate legged games possess the yellow skin gene?

What if the yellow skin was just mutation aquired thru selective breeding? Obviously the green and red jungle fowl have a common ansector, which makes it possible that the red jungle fowl could also evolve (selectively bred) to have the same genes for yellow leg, just like the green jungle fowl did. Its common in the animal kingdom, for example humans had the gene for blond hair appear in two distinct populations of humans, one in Europe and the other in the Pacific Islands. This could make it possible that no grey jungle fowl was used in the original domestic chicken.

Just a possible theory.. I am no Scientist.

It is possible to get yellow skin through more than one type of mutation. Mutation for yellow legs in domestic chickens is extremely similar at the nucleotide level to the naturally occurring yellow skin allele in grey jungle fowls. It would require several unlikely (in aggregate) mutations to convert the corresponding naturally occurring allele in red jungle fowl to give the same version currently in domestic chickens.

 

[varidgerunner]

I read an article awhile back, and I wish I would have bookmarked it. It was talking about different junglefowl species and their possible contribution to todays chickens. One of them (the Ceylon, I think) was sent as a gift to a pharaoh, about 200 of them which he turned loose in a garden, and they undoubtedly crossbred with some other species of junglefowl already stocked there, but they couldn't produce viable offspring in but a few precise circumstances, the theory was that the Fayoumis was the result of this. One of them, the males get along in small groups, some roosted on the ground, some in trees, green legs, yellow legs. It talked about different characteristics of the different species and their hybrids. One of them lays a clutch, and the rooster sets it and then they lay another clutch that the hen sets. Very interesting article, if only I could find it again.

 

[JShubin]

Good Morning from California. It rained last night! finally

 

[centrarchid]

You need more, a lot more over the next several months at least. You also need a lot of snow in them thar mountains to make so water available for ag this production season.

 

[varidgerunner]

https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/...corn-built-coops-cotes-shacks-and-shanties/10

This has some of the same info that I remember reading on post #15, but it is all good reading. Fascinating stuff. The history of chickens is the history of us, really. Some of the earliest domesticated chickens were used as gamefowl. But now we are too civilized to treat wanton self destruction as an entertaining public spectacle. Although, I'm sure Marilyn Monroe, Whitney Houston, Philip Seymour Hoffman, and countless others would argue that point if they were able. Entertainment is a basic human need, right up there with meat and eggs, people rank it pretty highly. And chickens have been filling that spot for a long time in many different ways. I don't think anyone would be on this site if they didn't find chickens darn entertaining.

 

[troyer]

Good Morning from California. It rained last night! finally

Very pretty picture! Well done!