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[Md Whitehackle]

14 high noon hatch/ leiper chicks I just got today from the man how made this blood Gary cooper. Gary is as first class breeder and a first class gentlemen. if his fowl are like there breeder they will be some top shelf fowl. I ordered 1 dozen chicks 6 leiper 6 high noons and he sent me 14 chicks not to mention he is a nice guy to deal with and he knows his birds and he can tell you there make up back to the first bird. if your looking for game fowl tack a look at high noon hatch game farm.

all of these are high noon hatch but center chick<leiper> notice the same thing lighter and darker chicks

 

[centrarchid]

If I know nothing about this chicks, and I had to guess whats going on with them, going by past personal experience and Others experience I would say that these chicks(faded dorsal stripe) I would say these chicks are Wildtype/Wheaten heterozygotes, that means e+/eWh, where homozygous e+/e+ are your normal wildtype chicks(show in pic) and homozygous eWh/eWh wheaten chicks are solid yellow, the e+/ewh can look just like the chicks you show with lighter coloration and faded dorsal stripes.

The dam to these birds was also suggested as wheaton heterozygotes but inheritance required to begat her would have required a recessive to wild-type version of wheaton and wheaton birds only are realized when line is outcrossed to a known wheaton line.

e^wh has been effectively ruled out as that was one of the recognized possibilities. The lighter colored chicks (with dorsal stripes) are homozygotes based on test mating to explore that possibility. I have seen wheaton phenotype as both homozygote and heterozygote in my lines genetic background and they do not look like chicks shown above, rather they are nearly white / very light yellow. Adult females are not consistent with heterozygote wheaton either. Confidence very high this is a yet to be described allele that does not shut down eumelanin to same extreme as e^wh operating on body. Of fourteen chicks alive at hatch the ratio of background coloration phenotypes is roughly; 1 wild-type: 2 intermediate: 1 light. This ratio may not represent true ratio at conception since hen set a 21-egg clutch.


Dam to chicks,

Dam relative to wild-type half sibling.

 

[centrarchid]

darker chicks will probably be bb red like and lighter will be like wheaten  if I had to guess just my to cent's  lol !!!!

I am noting that and saw his dark phase hens which are similar to mine. My birds are not out of High Noon stock but genetic mechanism could be similar.

 

[nicalandia]

The dam to these birds was also suggested as wheaton heterozygotes but inheritance required to begat her would have required a recessive to wild-type version of wheaton and wheaton birds only are realized when line is outcrossed to a known wheaton line.

e^wh has been effectively ruled out as that was one of the recognized possibilities. The lighter colored chicks (with dorsal stripes) are homozygotes based on test mating to explore that possibility. I have seen wheaton phenotype as both homozygote and heterozygote in my lines genetic background and they do not look like chicks shown above, rather they are nearly white / very light yellow. Adult females are not consistent with heterozygote wheaton either. Confidence very high this is a yet to be described allele that does not shut down eumelanin to same extreme as e^wh operating on body. Of fourteen chicks alive at hatch the ratio of background coloration phenotypes is roughly; 1 wild-type: 2 intermediate: 1 light. This ratio may not represent true ratio at conception since hen set a 21-egg clutch.


Dam to chicks,




Dam relative to wild-type half sibling.

I've seen those pics at the Classroom at th coop

 

[centrarchid]

Yes you have. They seem more intensely interested in genetics issues involving test matings and threads not so likely to be buried when they take a long time to develop.

 

[nicalandia]

Yes you have. They seem more intensely interested in genetics issues involving test matings and threads not so likely to be buried when they take a long time to develop.

thats true, I am Nicamarvin there..

 

[centrarchid]

thats true, I am Nicamarvin there..

Nice to know. Will continue to cross reference because many folks likely to have similar birds are into games and they are more abundant here.

 

[JShubin]

14 high noon hatch/ leiper chicks I just got today from the man how made this blood Gary cooper. Gary is as first class breeder and a first class gentlemen. if his fowl are like there breeder they will be some top shelf fowl. I ordered 1 dozen chicks 6 leiper 6 high noons and he sent me 14 chicks not to mention he is a nice guy to deal with and he knows his birds and he can tell you there make up back to the first bird. if your looking for game fowl tack a look at high noon hatch game farm.

I went onto the High noon website... not the best website but some of the best looking gamefowl I have ever seen. Good choice of breeder. His property looks amazing with all the springs and trees. Looks like he keeps a lot of them free range.

Wow I am impressed.

 

[centrarchid]

I went onto the High noon website... not the best website but some of the best looking gamefowl I have ever seen. Good choice of breeder. His property looks amazing with all the springs and trees. Looks like he keeps a lot of them free range.

Wow I am impressed.

That guys has nothing. I have disease bearing ticks and every king of poky thing that can cut you tangle your fibers. His place is too close to heaven. Real birds have to suffer just to get across the yard like I do.

 

[JShubin]

That guys has nothing. I have disease bearing ticks and every king of poky thing that can cut you tangle your fibers. His place is too close to heaven. Real birds have to suffer just to get across the yard like I do.

Haha... too close to heaven....

yeah my yard too. I have a baren desert of rocks and thorny bushes, not to mention the 100 deg weather in the spring, summer and fall. And I always keep a German Sheperd that is obssessed with culling my flock