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and were might you be going with this ? I always see some one asking I found this chicken today can you tell me what it is and you are right most of the time I tell them if you like it than its your bird. I always tell beginners save up your money and get high end stuff so you now what you have. or I will give you a trio so you now what you have . I just dontdo the it mabe this and it mabe that. but if you now what you have and do cross birds you can see what characteristics the bird will pick up from etch side. I also am a big fan of leg bands and log books my log book go's back a long way with all my breeding and I can tell you what went in to every bird from the time I acquired that bird and if I can trust my old mentor cockers from a time gone by I can tell you what went in to them from way back befor me. wen my mentor picked up shop never to be heard from I got his old breeding log book's that go back to the late Harold brown him self and the late bill Roberts him self.Folks you cannot not tell by looking at a bird what bloodline it represents. If you think you can then I will post some of mine and I will be able humble you pretty quick.
just lost my grey/hatch cock I wouldn't mind having that hen if you get around to culling her out
nice! That's why I try not to get birds from unknown sorces or people I haven't talked to eyeball to eyeball if a can help it that's why I got this new bird here it came from a well known friend and even then when he told me true junglefowl was in it not hatchery stock bred to look like it I was like hmmm until I went to put hands on it and it flew the length of two football fields or more 30 plus ft high then I had to have itand were might you be going with this ? I always see some one asking I found this chicken today can you tell me what it is and you are right most of the time I tell them if you like it than its your bird. I always tell beginners save up your money and get high end stuff so you now what you have. or I will give you a trio so you now what you have . I just dontdo the it mabe this and it mabe that. but if you now what you have and do cross birds you can see what characteristics the bird will pick up from etch side. I also am a big fan of leg bands and log books my log book go's back a long way with all my breeding and I can tell you what went in to every bird from the time I acquired that bird and if I can trust my old mentor cockers from a time gone by I can tell you what went in to them from way back befor me. wen my mentor picked up shop never to be heard from I got his old breeding log book's that go back to the late Harold brown him self and the late bill Roberts him self.
and were might you be going with this ? I always see some one asking I found this chicken today can you tell me what it is and you are right most of the time I tell them if you like it than its your bird. I always tell beginners save up your money and get high end stuff so you now what you have. or I will give you a trio so you now what you have . I just dontdo the it mabe this and it mabe that. but if you now what you have and do cross birds you can see what characteristics the bird will pick up from etch side. I also am a big fan of leg bands and log books my log book go's back a long way with all my breeding and I can tell you what went in to every bird from the time I acquired that bird and if I can trust my old mentor cockers from a time gone by I can tell you what went in to them from way back befor me. wen my mentor picked up shop never to be heard from I got his old breeding log book's that go back to the late Harold brown him self and the late bill Roberts him self.
The names are being thrown around too much. Even if solely from a given historical line (ie Leiper) when they have been in someone else's hands for a long time, they change by some combination of selection or random chance (genetic drift) which is really problematic unless you have literally hundreds of actual broodfowl.
Truth there! Not to mention the unspoken combos passed off as something else that seems to be a trend nomatter what the hobby or what have you there is always scammers and scalpers
yea ok I get what you are saying but we still need to refer to there names for there breed characteristics even if there not pure or there not kept like they were from the originator. like my high noons Gary has had them sheens the late 70's he is the originator I got them direct from him. if you have a breed/line/family of fowl the breed true I believe they maybe considered pure. also its not a bad thing to keep small genetic variances in said blood just to keep blood fresh and not to breed to closeThe names are being thrown around too much. Even if solely from a given historical line (ie Leiper) when they have been in someone else's hands for a long time, they change by some combination of selection or random chance (genetic drift) which is really problematic unless you have literally hundreds of actual broodfowl.