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Okay, please be kind! I like gamefowl, but never had any. These birds came from a place close by where they kept them in a house illegally. The local humane society called me (since they know I have chickens) and they are now living in my barn. The roosters seem aggressive to one another, (they are in seperate cages) and some of the hens are too. The girls have been laying a medium sized beige-colored egg.
Here are the girls:
Here are the boys:
Creole?
Golden Duckwing?
BBRed?
If anyone is interested in the roosters, PLEASE let me know. I don't have room for them all!
Here are the girls:
Here are the boys:
Creole?
Golden Duckwing?
BBRed?
If anyone is interested in the roosters, PLEASE let me know. I don't have room for them all!
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Wow, those are some nice birds! They aren't very old either. Still in their first year.
The green legged pullets could be out of Hatch blood. They make nice hens for ranging the yard and raising chicks (extremely protective).
The spangled... might have some Whitehackle blood in them.
Not sure about the black one, as I can't see her head.
Your stags colors would be:
Dom
Grey
Red
I like the grey stag the best. Just something about him.
The green legged pullets could be out of Hatch blood. They make nice hens for ranging the yard and raising chicks (extremely protective).
The spangled... might have some Whitehackle blood in them.
Not sure about the black one, as I can't see her head.
Your stags colors would be:
Dom
Grey
Red
I like the grey stag the best. Just something about him.
Here is the news article: (I hope its not wrong to post....)
Elkhart chickens seized a sign of cock fighting?
The Elkhart County Humane Society says there is a cock-fighting problem in the community, and they point to recent incidents inside city limits as possible examples.
There were 61 chickens seized in two separate incidents just three days apart. In both cases, the chickens were not originally seized because of cock fighting suspicions. They were seized because they were being kept inside Elkhart city limits, which is against city ordinance.
But once the Humane Society took the animals in, the executive director says it raised suspicions that the birds may have been used for something even more illegal; which is likely a bigger problem than most people realize.
The first incident was at 60-year-old Miguel Medinas home at 321 Country Club Dr. last Wednesday. Police called in the Humane Society, which seized 41 chickens; 24 of which were roosters. Both police and the Humane Society say the roosters were exceptionally aggressive, based on the opinions of animal control experts that have experience with farm animals. She also said many of the roosters had injuries on different parts of their bodies.
When you see that many roosters in the area and you see the fact that they've been altered on their head and also on the legs where the spikes are; there are some serious issues to show this is probably a cock fighting situation, said Anne Reel, Executive Director of the Elkhart Humane Society.
Then on Saturday, about six blocks away at 1534 Columbian Ave, police seized 20 more chickens at Tomas Pina Aguilar's home. But the Humane Society says it's not as clear that the second incident may have been chicken fighting related. There were only six roosters.
There was some problems in terms of their health, but in terms of aggression, we did not see that like we saw in the first batch, Reel said.
WNDU spoke with Medina off camera Monday. He said he only raised the chickens for farming purposes, and had done so on his property for seven years. He says his makeshift cages were visible from the street, and that if he were trying to hide anything, he would have put the cages further back on his property.
Medina says he had no idea it was against city ordinance to have chickens on his property, and that hed rarely heard any complaints from neighbors. His neighbors say he often gave them some of the hens' eggs.
I know him and have no knowledge of (involvement in chicken fighting) and I dont think he would engage in it even if it was to come up, said Debbie McAllister, who can see Medinas back yard from her front porch.
He's an honest very humble guy, seems very kind and generous, said Tom McAllister, finishing his wifes sentence.
But police say their investigation is ongoing, and that the possibility of ties to chicken fighting in both incidents will be seen through.
I'm not accusing any of these people of doing anything wrong other than possessing the chickens, but as law enforcement you have to look at the big picture, said Lt. Ed Windbigler with Elkhart Police.
The Humane Society says unfortunately, cockfighting might be part of that equation.
It definitely is alive and living in our community. Anything that people can do to make us aware of locations or suspected locations is appreciated, Reel said.
For now, the men in both incidents will be cited and likely fined.
Medina could pay more than $1,000 in fines for his 40 birds seized, at a rate of $25 dollars an animal.
Aguilar could face $500 dollars in fines, and he also was arrested Saturday for false informing and an outstanding warrant.
Elkhart chickens seized a sign of cock fighting?
The Elkhart County Humane Society says there is a cock-fighting problem in the community, and they point to recent incidents inside city limits as possible examples.
There were 61 chickens seized in two separate incidents just three days apart. In both cases, the chickens were not originally seized because of cock fighting suspicions. They were seized because they were being kept inside Elkhart city limits, which is against city ordinance.
But once the Humane Society took the animals in, the executive director says it raised suspicions that the birds may have been used for something even more illegal; which is likely a bigger problem than most people realize.
The first incident was at 60-year-old Miguel Medinas home at 321 Country Club Dr. last Wednesday. Police called in the Humane Society, which seized 41 chickens; 24 of which were roosters. Both police and the Humane Society say the roosters were exceptionally aggressive, based on the opinions of animal control experts that have experience with farm animals. She also said many of the roosters had injuries on different parts of their bodies.
When you see that many roosters in the area and you see the fact that they've been altered on their head and also on the legs where the spikes are; there are some serious issues to show this is probably a cock fighting situation, said Anne Reel, Executive Director of the Elkhart Humane Society.
Then on Saturday, about six blocks away at 1534 Columbian Ave, police seized 20 more chickens at Tomas Pina Aguilar's home. But the Humane Society says it's not as clear that the second incident may have been chicken fighting related. There were only six roosters.
There was some problems in terms of their health, but in terms of aggression, we did not see that like we saw in the first batch, Reel said.
WNDU spoke with Medina off camera Monday. He said he only raised the chickens for farming purposes, and had done so on his property for seven years. He says his makeshift cages were visible from the street, and that if he were trying to hide anything, he would have put the cages further back on his property.
Medina says he had no idea it was against city ordinance to have chickens on his property, and that hed rarely heard any complaints from neighbors. His neighbors say he often gave them some of the hens' eggs.
I know him and have no knowledge of (involvement in chicken fighting) and I dont think he would engage in it even if it was to come up, said Debbie McAllister, who can see Medinas back yard from her front porch.
He's an honest very humble guy, seems very kind and generous, said Tom McAllister, finishing his wifes sentence.
But police say their investigation is ongoing, and that the possibility of ties to chicken fighting in both incidents will be seen through.
I'm not accusing any of these people of doing anything wrong other than possessing the chickens, but as law enforcement you have to look at the big picture, said Lt. Ed Windbigler with Elkhart Police.
The Humane Society says unfortunately, cockfighting might be part of that equation.
It definitely is alive and living in our community. Anything that people can do to make us aware of locations or suspected locations is appreciated, Reel said.
For now, the men in both incidents will be cited and likely fined.
Medina could pay more than $1,000 in fines for his 40 birds seized, at a rate of $25 dollars an animal.
Aguilar could face $500 dollars in fines, and he also was arrested Saturday for false informing and an outstanding warrant.
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Carole, As I told you on FB they look like young males who are game or game crosses. Good luck with them! After reading the article, kinda beginning to feel bad for at least the one guy...seems like they didn't really have much proof.
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Both police and the Humane Society say the roosters were exceptionally aggressive, based on the opinions of animal control experts that have experience with farm animals. She also said many of the roosters had injuries on different parts of their bodies.
Yeah, um... the American Gamefowl is know for being very territorial. I don't see how that is any kind of news. They're born that way, not trained. Lots of roosters in an area, you're gonna have scuffles, it's not uncommon.
Yeah, um... the American Gamefowl is know for being very territorial. I don't see how that is any kind of news. They're born that way, not trained. Lots of roosters in an area, you're gonna have scuffles, it's not uncommon.
When you see that many roosters in the area and you see the fact that they've been altered on their head and also on the legs where the spikes are; there are some serious issues to show this is probably a cock fighting situation, said Anne Reel, Executive Director of the Elkhart Humane Society.
She does not even know the correct terminology for spurs.
Aside from the fact that lots of folks dub their fowl for reasons beyond what they suspect.
Misinformation really, really rankles my nerves.
She does not even know the correct terminology for spurs.
Misinformation really, really rankles my nerves.
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Needless to say, I knew more about the birds than THEY did! I could tell they were dubbed, and of course roosters will fight. The staff had heavy gloves on to handle them, and I walk in and carry them around like it was nuthin'! Those roos are not mean to people. We need to educate people on this, and this is a good way to start....not all birds are used for fighting!
Thanks for your input.
Thanks for your input.
What really hurts is that they are the ones responsible for the deaths of those beautiful birds because they are deemed too "aggressive" and they don't want to take the chance the birds might be used for illegal purposes. I'm glad they contacted you, Carole. At least a few of them do get a chance at life.
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This is one of the rare cases where they weren't uthanized. Sicking how uneducated people are.
are these some sort of oeg chick? im thinking black or birchen?
what do you think?
what do you think?
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