Be careful identifying from single pix chicken experts...
Some gamefowl come rose combed...
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Be careful identifying from single pix chicken experts...
Some gamefowl come rose combed...
Not completely game or completely sebright....probably a cross....but a very handsome cross..
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I am asking the expert above.
In respect to the gamefowl strain you have a photographed does it represent; the gamefowl source of the rosecomb allele found in all nongame breeds, an example of a gamefowl line with the rosecomb allele derived from nongame ancestors, or is it derived from a single-comb only line that spontaneously arose through mutation?
I am asking the expert above.
In respect to the gamefowl strain you have a photographed does it represent; the gamefowl source of the rosecomb allele found in all nongame breeds, an example of a gamefowl line with the rosecomb allele derived from nongame ancestors, or is it derived from a single-comb only line that spontaneously arose through mutation?
I grew up with and have continued to see rose comb Spanish games all my life. You could bet they are game and not crosses with barn yard chickens.
Rose combs in any breed are an indication of oriental blood somewhere in it`s ancestry.......Pop
Then does rose comb in non-games only come from games or could have it come about independently? Virtually all production / ornamental breeds have game in back ground if you go back far enough but but that does not exclude possibility the rose comb allele arose independently via mutation.
Birds of interest to me I think got allele from Spanish games which according to some accounts have oriental in their background.
Birds of interest to me I think got allele from Spanish games which according to some accounts have oriental in their background.
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Going to get more brood stock this weekend. Hopefully soon will be able to post pictures. Not sure how long you have to wait
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You should be able to post pics blueface 3 posted pics here on the Game thread on his 2 post:
https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=7566772#p7566772
Go to the top and push the box with Img it will come up like this
the click in the middle of the imgs (split the brackets with the cursor) and paste your url/ jpeg
no spaces in between the brackets and the url.jpeg
Try it and see I don't know of any waiting game on here for posting pics.
Anybody?
Jeff
You should be able to post pics blueface 3 posted pics here on the Game thread on his 2 post:
https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=7566772#p7566772
Go to the top and push the box with Img it will come up like this
Try it and see I don't know of any waiting game on here for posting pics.
Jeff
TEN POST BEFORE YOU CAN PUT PIC'S ON!
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You should be able to post pics blueface 3 posted pics here on the Game thread on his 2 post:
https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=7566772#p7566772
Go to the top and push the box with Img it will come up like this the click in the middle of the imgs (split the brackets with the cursor) and paste your url/ jpeg paste no spaces in between the brackets and the url.jpeg
Try it and see I don't know of any waiting game on here for posting pics.
Anybody?
Jeff
Quote:
You should be able to post pics blueface 3 posted pics here on the Game thread on his 2 post:
https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=7566772#p7566772
Go to the top and push the box with Img it will come up like this the click in the middle of the imgs (split the brackets with the cursor) and paste your url/ jpeg paste no spaces in between the brackets and the url.jpeg
Try it and see I don't know of any waiting game on here for posting pics.
Jeff
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I am asking the expert above.
In respect to the gamefowl strain you have a photographed does it represent; the gamefowl source of the rosecomb allele found in all nongame breeds, an example of a gamefowl line with the rosecomb allele derived from nongame ancestors, or is it derived from a single-comb only line that spontaneously arose through mutation?
The bird is a rosecomb from a rosecomb gamefowl line. Some of the research I have located showed that some of the rosecomb spanish blood supposedly came from rosecomb gamefowl brought in from England that are no longer a gamefowl strain represented in England. Others suggest they may have also came by way of the Phonecians or Roman expansion, or any of the many trade routes from the Orient. Genetically speaking the rosecomb trait comes closest to being completely dominant compared to the other comb types as well as many of the overall genetic expressions of the fowl. This line through breedings in the brood pens proved to be quite homozygous for rosecomb in their pure matings. Only bred them a couple years though in small hen raised clutches so my percentages for genetic testing could have been better expressed and am only going off of my limited results. My questions would be to you all that being such a dominant representing trait, wouldn't one expect to see it cropping up in all breeds game and non game alike as somthing epressed so dominantly would be hard to breed out of a line after it gets into them? Wouldn't it not be likely that it is a trait bred in from a non game line as a loss in gameness of any kind by way of "barnyard" infusion supposedly kills the deadgameness that is bred for in true game fowl? And if it is a mutation of the single comb, wouldn't it be recessive to the straight comb then?
I am asking the expert above.
In respect to the gamefowl strain you have a photographed does it represent; the gamefowl source of the rosecomb allele found in all nongame breeds, an example of a gamefowl line with the rosecomb allele derived from nongame ancestors, or is it derived from a single-comb only line that spontaneously arose through mutation?
The bird is a rosecomb from a rosecomb gamefowl line. Some of the research I have located showed that some of the rosecomb spanish blood supposedly came from rosecomb gamefowl brought in from England that are no longer a gamefowl strain represented in England. Others suggest they may have also came by way of the Phonecians or Roman expansion, or any of the many trade routes from the Orient. Genetically speaking the rosecomb trait comes closest to being completely dominant compared to the other comb types as well as many of the overall genetic expressions of the fowl. This line through breedings in the brood pens proved to be quite homozygous for rosecomb in their pure matings. Only bred them a couple years though in small hen raised clutches so my percentages for genetic testing could have been better expressed and am only going off of my limited results. My questions would be to you all that being such a dominant representing trait, wouldn't one expect to see it cropping up in all breeds game and non game alike as somthing epressed so dominantly would be hard to breed out of a line after it gets into them? Wouldn't it not be likely that it is a trait bred in from a non game line as a loss in gameness of any kind by way of "barnyard" infusion supposedly kills the deadgameness that is bred for in true game fowl? And if it is a mutation of the single comb, wouldn't it be recessive to the straight comb then?
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