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[MinxFox]

I think Dylansmom has said before that the blackshoulder males can take 4 or more years to fully color out. I know sometimes it can be a slow process for them. The way the white looks it doesn't look like pied. it is too speckled like what feathers turning color will look like. if some of the flight feathers are a solid white then it could be a split but when you see white up high on the wing like that it looks a lot like photos I have seen of blackshoulders whose wings haven't fully colored in yet. I am on my phone so I can't show a picture of what I am talking about, but image searching young blackshoulder males might bring up an older male that still has some white on his wings.

 

[Dany12]

Here you can see the difference between Pied and young black shoulder feathers .... Pied is WHITE !
And almost all black shoulder pied have white throat!

 

[cajunfowl0]

Oh ok there has to be black shoulder in there then. I remember when u first got them as chicks they were all colored like India blue chicks tho. Even the one in the picture. Peafowl genetics and color patterns hurt my head LOL

 

[cajunfowl0]

Also I don't know if it's possible to see very well but the one I posted pics of has ALOT of green on his neck and face! What could that mean?

 

[Birdrain92]

Also I don't know if it's possible to see very well but the one I posted pics of has ALOT of green on his neck and face! What could that mean?

It looks like a Midnight Black Shoulder instead of an Indian Blue Black Shoulder. Midnights tend to have more of a dark greenish black color than the blue. When you start to understand and research the genetics it can begin to make sense.

 

[cajunfowl0]

It's a possibility but I do know for a fact that the parents were both India blues.

 

[cajunfowl0]

So maybe he is a ib midnight black shoulder or something

 

[Birdrain92]

Originally Posted by cajunfowl0

It's a possibility but I do know for a fact that the parents were both India blues.


Chances are then they parents could be split to Midnight.

 

[Birdrain92]

When we say split to it simple terms for me it means they are heterozygous. Or in other words they have a hidden gene that is hidden until they have offspring. Meaning the parents could have an Indian Blue allele which is dominant, and a Midnight allele which is recessive in this case. That means the parents will look like Indian Blues but their offspring can be: Midnight, Indian Blue, or Indian Blue split to Midnight.

 

[Birdrain92]

Easiest way to explain Spalding, Indian, and Green. Indian is a species. The color and pattern mutations are varieties. Green peafowl are another species. The different kinds of Green peafowl are subspecies of Greens. A Spalding is a hybrid not a crossbreed. Hybrid is the mixing of two species like a horse and donkey making a mule. While a Quarter Horse and Appaloosa is a crossbreed since those are two breeds of horses.

A variety can be color or pattern. A Indian Blue Black Shoulder is a variety of the Indian peafowl. A Purple peafowl is a variety of the Indian Peafowl. A Spalding Split to White is a variety of Spalding peafowl.

White, White Eyed, Pied, and Silver Pied are caused by a gene called Leucism. It's the lack of pigmentation in the plumage/coat. A White tiger is not an albino tiger because it still has pigmentation in the eyes and skin. White peafowl still have pigmentation in their eyes and skin. That's why they are not an Albino. To be an Albino there has to be no pigmentation in the eyes, skin, plumage/coat. Leucism will always show up with another color or it will cover up another color depending on how strong the gene is. That's why when we say it can be split to White, White Eyed, Silver Pied, or Pied it's because it shows some white but not all of it. The other colors when we say split to one of the colors will not show at all until you see the offspring.

You also have Sex Link genes. Making it so one sex will have the gene or it won't have the gene while the other sex will only have that gene, carry it, or not have it at all. I'm not entirely confident with explaining the rest of the Sex link genes since I don't have experience with them so I will let someone else do it.