show quality speckled sussex ??

[Gallusfarm]

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Ohhh, I'd love to have a pullet or two, if you are going to sell at some point. Your culls will be my eye candy!

 

[Inkheart]

I have just found this thread - great discussuiins i feel. I have no trouble finding speckled sussex but quality and healthy ones are another story, I had given up hope as i had not really wanted to start with hatchery stock, i Would also like to locate good quality bantams
Thanks for starting this Math Ace i know you have been looking quite a while

 

[Howhardcanitbe]

A few shots of my boys. Everybody is molting, so they're not at their best. I know I've got some issues; what can we learn from them? --Robin

#1 16 week old cockerel

#2 Another 16 week old cockerel

Wing pattern #1

Wing Pattern 2

Side shot. Seems slightly humpbacked to me. Course he's ready to bolt the second I let go of his leg.

Crooked inner toes and bleed through on shanks

 

[math ace]

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I THOUGHT, from reading the APA standard and its pinkish white description for leg color, that the red bleed through would be bad.
HOWEVER, Don (snowbird) said the ABA standard is worded so that the red bleed through is fine.

 

[math ace]

At 16 weeks, they have not finished the molt yet. So color will continue to change as new feathers arrive.
My concern at this point would be how wide the black stripes are on the wing.

The APA standard calls for ...

Wngs:
Fronts and Bows: Lustrous mahogany bay each feather tipped with white, a narrow elongated V shaped black bar dividing white from balance of feather


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[math ace]

Don, What is up with the black edging on this cockerel's wing feathers?
Is that because of age?
Is it acceptable or not acceptable?
Does it indicate anything .... ie bird too dark ?

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[math ace]

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Hello Robin

Thanks for posting some pics of your boys. I can not tell anything about their size or statue or tail angle because the standing up poses are not in their natural position. If you can a chance to grab a couple of more shots with them just walking around on their own - -- please, post them!

I think we are missing a head shot of cockerel # 1. Cockerel #2 might have a twisted comb.

Is it the lighting or are these boys two distinct colors of mahogany?

 

[fowlman01]

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I THOUGHT, from reading the APA standard and its pinkish white description for leg color, that the red bleed through would be bad.
HOWEVER, Don (snowbird) said the ABA standard is worded so that the red bleed through is fine.

The APA SOP does not address "bleed through". I doubt that any APA judge would mark the bird down for it, unless it was affecting the pinkish white color overall. Even then it is not addressed in the SOP. Many breeds have tints/spots in their leg color. It would be better to not have it, but it should not be much of a concern unless it takes over the leg color.

Walt

 

[Howhardcanitbe]

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Hello Robin

Thanks for posting some pics of your boys. I can not tell anything about their size or statue or tail angle because the standing up poses are not in their natural position. If you can a chance to grab a couple of more shots with them just walking around on their own - -- please, post them!

I think we are missing a head shot of cockerel # 1. Cockerel #2 might have a twisted comb.

Is it the lighting or are these boys two distinct colors of mahogany?

I will try to get some more natural poses. The head shots I took were awful so I didn't post them, and yes, twisted comb on #2. I took the pictures of each cockerel at different times, so yes the lighting is different, but #1 is definitely a darker shade of mahogany.

After scrutinizing them for the last few days, I know there are cosmetic issues, and I posted the pics I did so we could all learn from them. I'm having a harder time capturing "the form" of my birds in pictures. (Not much for standing still, my birds!) Are they really humpbacked? Are the legs set wide enough apart? Is the chest deep and broad enough? The sort of things that will affect utility. I've cleared the memory card on my camera which means I can snap some 200 pics in one session. Hopefully, I can get some good shots that illustrate what I'm talking about.

Thanks to everyone for their input.

Robin

 

[fowlman01]

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Hello Robin

Thanks for posting some pics of your boys. I can not tell anything about their size or statue or tail angle because the standing up poses are not in their natural position. If you can a chance to grab a couple of more shots with them just walking around on their own - -- please, post them!

I think we are missing a head shot of cockerel # 1. Cockerel #2 might have a twisted comb.

Is it the lighting or are these boys two distinct colors of mahogany?

I will try to get some more natural poses. The head shots I took were awful so I didn't post them, and yes, twisted comb on #2. I took the pictures of each cockerel at different times, so yes the lighting is different, but #1 is definitely a darker shade of mahogany.

After scrutinizing them for the last few days, I know there are cosmetic issues, and I posted the pics I did so we could all learn from them. I'm having a harder time capturing "the form" of my birds in pictures. (Not much for standing still, my birds!) Are they really humpbacked? Are the legs set wide enough apart? Is the chest deep and broad enough? The sort of things that will affect utility. I've cleared the memory card on my camera which means I can snap some 200 pics in one session. Hopefully, I can get some good shots that illustrate what I'm talking about.

Thanks to everyone for their input.

Robin

How hard can it be?....hahaha Actually it is very hard to get a good pic. If you have a telephoto setting on your camera, use that to stand back and take the pics. Get as much of the bird in the frame as possible. The side shot of a relaxed bird is the most important shot. Then front, back and top if you can do it. They seem to "know" that you are taking pics, so they are seldom cooperative.

Walt