Shrink wraped

[birdeo]

Quote: Not to be arguing with you, please don't misunderstand, but with hatching eggs the chicks can and will drown in those shells if the humidity is way too high.
All eggs go through a mechanical process during incubation, the air cell enlarges and the eggs lose weight.
Like you say, it's the proper weight loss that's the good indicator of success or failure.
You can think of peafowl eggs being on a 28 day weight loss program ;
If losing too much weight ( water ) then raise the humidity but not in excess or you can have the drowned chicks. If eggs are not losing enough weight ( water) then you need to lower your humidity but again, not too much or you can have shrink wrap.
There are a host of other problems that can come from extremes in humidity and temp. changes ( improper air flow and turning also ) too like bad legs, unabsorbed yolk sacs etc .
Best to weigh the eggs and keep up with the weight loss or get good reliable info. on what they SHOULD be incubated at, go with it and hope for the best.
Egg shell textures vary & that has great impact on what kind of weight loss will happen in any given egg, reason weighing them and keeping up with the weight loss is so critical for a good hatch.

 

[AugeredIn]

And am not arguing with you either but if you have a hatch where 50% of the fully developed chicks hatch and 50% do not, the issue is not size or shape of the air cell. The effects of both temperature and humidity must be considered.

But if you really want to learn (not aimed at you) one should read up on the literature published by those that hatch a 100-500 a day instead of us hobby folks like us that hatch 3,000 a year.

Because a discussion of temperature and humidity does not even begin to scratch the surface of the dynamics of incubation and hatching. If you do it enough with more difficult birds you begin to start to see how a birds physical condition and feeding will also affect incubation and hatching like frenchblackcopper has.

 

[birdeo]

I understand , it's all about the proper balance of the right temp. & humidity, maintaining good air flow/exchange & turning .
I'm just saying that if someone weighs the eggs , keeps up with/ shoots for the ideal weight loss then they can adjust those factors, per the weight losses they are getting , to get close to the ideal weight losses and have a good hatch.
Sure, you can raise the temp and /or lower the humidity to get greater weight loss... increasing your air flow /exchange is just as , if not more, helpful.

The 50/50% good/bad results from the same hatch could be due to again... varying shell quality of the eggs.. more porous ones lose weight at a greater rate , less porous thicker shelled eggs lose less.
Then there can be differences in spots in the incubator, some can be warmer/cooler than others, some eggs can be placed inside the incubator to where they aren't receiving the ideal air flow...that can affect the weight loss of certain eggs in those less than ideal spots also.

I agree with you , breeder health and nutrition def. come into play for a good hatch also , has a lot to do with many things, shell quality included.

 

[Shay1Bear]

Hey guys I know its been almost a year since anybody has posted here but this is the only information I can find! I have a pea egg that was due to hatch 2 days ago and I candeled it and it looked like it had internally piped so I made a small hole on the big end so I could see what was going on and the pea chick hasnt internally piped at all and its shrink wrapped!!! I dont know what to do but the chick is still alive and I can still see blood vessels on the membrane when I wet it with a Q tip. Any ideas on what I might be able to do to save this baby???

 

[new 2 pfowl]

Poor little guy

This is definitely not my department, but I think there's some discussion of this on the 2015 hatch thread:
https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/949865/2015-breeding-season

Also, if you do an advanced search here with the keywords Shrink Wrapped, I think there's more info.
Hopefully some of our experienced peapeople will have some useful advice too.

 

[Ravynscroft]

Hey guys I know its been almost a year since anybody has posted here but this is the only information I can find! I have a pea egg that was due to hatch 2 days ago and I candeled it and it looked like it had internally piped so I made a small hole on the big end so I could see what was going on and the pea chick hasnt internally piped at all and its shrink wrapped!!! I dont know what to do but the chick is still alive and I can still see blood vessels on the membrane when I wet it with a Q tip. Any ideas on what I might be able to do to save this baby???

I have no experience with peafowl, but I suggest either starting a new post in the Emergencies forum or asking @casportpony for advice... she is super awesome and very knowledgeable about peafowl and saving all types of fowl... good luck and hope it pulls through!

 

[AugeredIn]

My own experience is that if the chick has not internally pipped, the odds of you helping it hatch are slim. Once it internally pips the odds go way up. I would just cover the hole with a wet towel and wait.

 

[thndrdancr]

Kathy has one that mad malpositioned that I think was not internally pipped.

Read page 30 and 32 of the egg hatching thread.

You can slit a small hole where his beak is so he can breathe, but only as long as not a lot of blood vessels. The blood should be pretty much absorbed from when u posted, right? There will always be a bit of blood. I have been able to save quite a few so do have hope.

 

[Shay1Bear]

well my shrink wraped kid finally hatched although 4 days late he or she seems to be okay. Very exhausted! Thank you guys for your help!