Sick Pea Chick Died - Going to Vet School For Necropsy - Will Post Results

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My question is if we worm the peas 2x's a year with Ivermectin and Safegaurd, are they safe from blackhead or is this something that just comes along from a bad worm they get and is not preventable??? Then can't we worm pea chicks under a year old or do we have to wait till they are how many months? The 2 babies are only 3 weeks old is there a dosage for them?
 
Lil Zoo said:
My question is if we worm the peas 2x's a year with Ivermectin and Safegaurd, are they safe from blackhead

No.

or is this something that just comes along from a bad worm they get and is not preventable???

They get it from infected worms or chicken/bird poop that's contaminated.

Then can't we worm pea chicks under a year old or do we have to wait till they are how many months?

Peas under one year can be wormed. All of my chicks have been wormed with Safeguard several times already, but they hatched on ground with a known blackhead problem.

The 2 babies are only 3 weeks old is there a dosage for them?

Four of this years chicks hatched on 6-23 and by 7-8 one was dead and two others were ill. The UC Davis necropsy confirmed blackhead. I know if I had not let them touch the ground this would not have happened. Maybe if I had wormed them before they looked sick I would still have all four.

And yes, there is a dosage for them, but I would *strongly* suggest that you consult with an avian vet that has experience treating/preventing blackhead before giving any medicine.

If you can, keep them in a cage, off the ground, as long as possible.
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Are you planning to lock the turkeys away too? Keep in mind that locking them away from the other critters will only work if you have complete biosecurity. That means that you can't track ANY poop in on your footwear, that wild birds can't get in, that the run is 100% enclosed... If it were me? I would worm everybody with a wormer that tagets cecal worms, keep the babies off of the ground for as long as possible, and be ready to treat at the first sign of symptoms. Other than that, I don't think I would do any drastic changes.

I hope that this is just an isolated case!
 
Frosty's right, true biosecurity for the average person is probably impossible and not very practical. There are some chicken breeders in my area that won't shop at the local feed store due to the feed store's number of sick birds.

Putting all birds, not just peas and turkeys, on a worming program will also help as will keeping poults and peachicks off the ground for as long as possible.
 
Frosty said:
Are you planning to lock the turkeys away too?  Keep in mind that locking them away from the other critters will only work if you have complete biosecurity.  That means that you can't track ANY poop in on your footwear, that wild birds can't get in, that the run is 100% enclosed... If it were me?  I would worm everybody with a wormer that tagets cecal worms, keep the babies off of the ground for as long as possible, and be ready to treat at the first sign of symptoms.  Other than that, I don't think I would do any drastic changes. 

I hope that this is just an isolated case!
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Yes, it was.
 
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casportpony said:
Frosty's right, true biosecurity for the average person is probably impossible and not very practical. There are some chicken breeders in my area that won't shop at the local feed store due to the feed store's number of sick birds.

Putting all birds, not just peas and turkeys, on a worming program will also help as will keeping poults and peachicks off the ground for as long as possible.
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Yes, I'm very careful about taking shoes off, etc. I have special shoes for the chicken yard and the pea pen. I do not wear my feed store shoes in the chicken yard. I'm too paranoid. If I go to someone's house who has chickens, I put on my blue shoe covers. When I leave, I open my car door, take them off with my latex gloves and place the shoe covers in a plastic bag and discard of the bag at the nearest gas station or store. I don't even bring the bag home.

All of the animals are currently on a worming schedule. I have to see if it's time to worm again - and I think it is. I know that a lot of people on BYC have had problems with sick poults and I guess I'm lucky because I do keep my poults off the ground for months before I turn them loose in the chicken yard. I will have to treat the peas the same.
 
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