Sick Pigeon

[Wyorp Rock]

I know nothing about pigeons, so I'm glad others have chimed in. If it were a chicken, I would think crop issues from your description - it looks like you have received some good information from @biophiliac and @JaeG

I hope all goes well.

 

[Lady507]

hey everyone, thank you so much for all the help. I would follow up with all the suggestions and hope that I can save him. Sorry for taking so long in answering my internet fell and I couldn't log in. Again thank you and I will be giving updates. Today he is still weak but still eating but is not eating much. I am going to try to take out all the fluid like jak2002003 said which is similar to what the vet did. Thank you again I really appreciate the help and I am going to try my best to save him.

 

[Lady507]

I was thinking of going out and buying a syringe and try to do it myself. I'm just scared of accidentally poking the wrong thing. But I am going to try since I think that is the best option here.

 

[casportpony]

Crop problems usually require medication.

 

[casportpony]

Did I read somewhere about monistat for human yeast infectons used for sour crop??? or am I delusional LOL.

Some people have used that in chickens, and I guess one could try, but the problem is that "sour crop" or "crop stasis" does not always mean their is a fungal infection. Crop stasis is very common in sick birds.

The pigeon in the story from the other forum had it's crop drained and flushed, but it probably also was given antibiotics or antifungals, maybe even both.

 

[Lady507]

I looked at the links, I will try to do the tube feeding. If that doesn't work I will try to feed him with a syringe like a do a baby bird. Thank you for the suggestions, let's hope we can save this pigeon.

 

[biophiliac]

I looked at the links, I will try to do the tube feeding. If that doesn't work I will try to feed him with a syringe like a do a baby bird. Thank you for the suggestions, let's hope we can save this pigeon.

Sorry, I didn't mean feed him, I meant to insert the syringe to withdraw the fluid as in :
[an earlier post]
Pij had developed sour crop. The dr. explained he would need to aspirate the fluid out of the crop then flush it a couple times. With that said, we turned Pij over to them & in a few minutes he returned with Pij & a syringe with about 7 cc's of bile looking fluid.
I looked at the dr. & said, "All that came out of Pij's crop?" He replied, "No, there were 11 syringes." 70+ cc's of fluid was aspirated from that poor baby's crop.

Pij is a very husky pigeon (in fact he weighed in at 530 gr.). His crop did not look like it was enlarged. Although he showed no ill symptom

 

[casportpony]

There are a number of youtube videos for treatment of sour crop in pigeons. Some are intriguing but I don't know from experience if they work......

I have not watched any. Any of them done by a vet?

 

[casportpony]

Not 'You tube' but this is from a site called Melbournebirdvet.com
http://www.melbournebirdvet.com/common-pigeon-disease-amp-treatments.aspx

Sour crop

In pigeons with sour crop, at least 90% have an internal canker nodule located at the base of the crop or within the glandular stomach (proventriculus). As the nodule increases in size, it squashes the windpipe making breathing difficult and blocking the crop outlet. This interferes with crop emptying, leading to bacterial infection of the crop and secondary starvation and dehydration due to the crop contents not being able to pass into the bird's system. Usually by the time the bird is noticed to be unwell, the condition has passed the point where it will respond to treatment. Deaths often occur due to the nodule growing through the stomach wall, leading to stomach contents leaking into the chest. Alternatively, the nodule can damage the heart or large blood vessels within the chest, causing sudden and severe bleeding. Such birds are often found dead on the floor with blood coming from the mouth. It is always worth attempting to treat valuable birds and I suggest :
• Manually empty the crop
• Give electrolytes in water
• Treat bird with 3 drops Baytril twice daily
• Treat bird with 1 tablet of Spartrix or a 1/4 Flagyl tablet or 0.5 ml Flagyl syrup once daily
• Separate unwell bird from loft mates

That is probably the best link I have seen I a long time!

 

[Lady507]

I checked it out it was really good, I am totally keeping this in favorites for any future problems I just saw that you had asked about seeing the poop. Here is a photo.