Silkie breeding, genetics & showing

[Adoravachick]

Porcelain SHOULD breed true. If it does not, one of the parents is not porcelain.

Thanks! I am going to try them out.

Thanks for posting the pics of duck foot, very informative.

 

[B J Hopkins]

I have been hatching out silkies for 2 days now. My SG roo must have super Show Girl genes because every single eggs so far (8) from him has been Show Girls. I have never had this happen before. Usually it is a ratio of around 3 regular to 1 SG. This happen to anyone else?? Pictures are soon to come

I hatched 10 eggs from a SG roo over a Silky hen last fall. ALL the chicks were SG, but had more neck fuz that poppa did. Didn't have a good survival rate though. Of the 4 I kept for myself, only 2 survived. The friend who hatched the eggs in her incubator kept 6 of the hatchlings but her problem was her other house pets. None of hers survived.

 

[peepblessed]

Thanks. I think that might be the fun part, trying to see what is hidden under that Buff. The Partridge rooster (Owl) came out of a BBS breeding pen so his genetics are probably rather straightforward. Since he shows no blue, he doesn't have the Bl gene. The Buff (Poppi) appears to have a few marks on her wing feathers, so there might be something else hidden in there. She does have a really pretty gold collar and good body type as well as great foot feathering. No split wings on either one.

This is what I am working with

Poppi, the buff


Owl on alert and Poppi

I can't find any good pictures of the blue girl or the frizzle (sizzle?). I will probably hatch a few from the blue frizzle while working on this project, just for fun.

Love you buff girl!!

 

[peepblessed]

Porcelain SHOULD breed true. If it does not, one of the parents is not porcelain.

I thought porcelain to porcelain could produce self-blue. Am I mistaken?

 

[nicalandia]

I thought porcelain to porcelain could produce self-blue. Am I mistaken?

you are partially Mistaken.why? Porcelain do have lavender, but not al lavender birds are self blue. self blue is a self black bird with two copies of lavender

 

[Feathersprings]

you are partially Mistaken.why? Porcelain do have lavender, but not al lavender birds are self blue. self blue is a self black bird with two copies of lavender

So I am confused again.. I am of the understanding that "lavender" is just a name for Self Blue which is black with 2 lavender genes and was changed when it became a standard color but that people still use. ??

 

[Adoravachick]

So I am confused again.. I am of the understanding that "lavender" is just a name for Self Blue which is black with 2 lavender genes and was changed when it became a standard color but that people still use. ??

Whoa! I'm confused too....I think my brain just turned inside out.

 

[PaintedFeathers]

So I am confused again.. I am of the understanding that "lavender" is just a name for Self Blue which is black with 2 lavender genes and was changed when it became a standard color but that people still use. ??

Whoa! I'm confused too....I think my brain just turned inside out.

Ditto! I was told Lavender is Self blue and Porcelain is blue cream

So confused!

 

[Feathersprings]

Whoa! I'm confused too....I think my brain just turned inside out.

Ditto! I was told Lavender is Self blue and Porcelain is blue cream

So confused!

Whoa! I'm confused too....I think my brain just turned inside out.

At least we are all confused together lol!

 

[ChickNmamma]

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Ok, lets confuse (or maybe straighten out) some more... Porcelain is Self Blue (lav/lav) x Buff(which is NOT a simple gene combination) and has been called Blue Cream, Self Cream or Porcelain. The name seems to be in limbo??... Because of the complexity possible in the Buff genetics and hidden possibilities in the Self Blue it can throw some oddball colors. If the grandparents were "Pure" Buff (nothing hidden) x "Pure" Self Blue (lav/lav also no hidden) then both parents are "Pure" Porcelain and crossing them would only get Porcelain. However.... there are lots of hidden genes out there - that only when doubled will show. Lavender (lav) is one, or genes may be sex-linked (choc & barring?).... chicken genetics are complex!

I think if you crossed a Porcelain x Porcelain and got Self Blue - somebody wasn't really Porcelain because you lost all the Buff genetics. Maybe that's what he means. Not all birds appearing to be Lavender (Self Blue) are actually lav/lav? Some very light Blue (Bl/bl) without lacing (lacing is hard to see on Silkies) look very much like Lavender... so if your Porcelain carries Bl and no lav/lav It might be Light Blue with gold leakage...

Ouch, now MY head hurts...

edited because I put Lav instead of lav for the gene