Silkie breeding, genetics & showing

[TNBarnQueen]

Is he pure for Na? If so, all his chicks should be showgirls.

Forgive my ignorance Sonoran....what is Na? Before he was with a regular silkie so...it could be that all this time he has been producing 100% SGs and I did not realize it until he was the only one with them. But he never has any that are Naked Neck like him...they all have Bowties...just hatched 5 more out...all SGs.

 

[ChickNmamma]

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Then from my understanding of chicken genetics, he is Na/Na - which is homozygous for Naked Neck (two copies) - and they do not have the Bowtie - just a bare neck and will ONLY throw SGs because they ALWAYS give a copy of Na to their kids...

 

[TNBarnQueen]

Then from my understanding of chicken genetics, he is Na/Na - which is homozygous for Naked Neck (two copies) - and they do not have the Bowtie - just a bare neck and will ONLY throw SGs because they ALWAYS give a copy of Na to their kids...

Yeah!

 

[ChickNmamma]

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Just a warning too - do not breed him with a SG that has no bowtie - you might get naked birds!

Keep breeding him to Silkies, you should be fine.

 

[TNBarnQueen]

Just a warning too - do not breed him with a SG that has no bowtie - you might get naked birds!

Keep breeding him to Silkies, you should be fine.

Yes...I knew it was a no no to breed same to same because it flaws the genetic make up...but I am curious how they get the Naked Neck. I was told they are hard to find.

 

[ChickNmamma]

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The Naked Neck (Na/Na) is created by crossing SG to SG.... some will be silkies, some will be SG and some will be Naked Necks. I believe the ratios would be 50% SG, 25% Silkies & 25% NN silkies (which I think are also called SG?). What you don't want to do is cross NN x NN - because those crosses can make your birds loose more feathers each time - until you end up with NO feathers. Poor featherless birds don't live long...

 

[Sanna]

So I am confused again.. I am of the understanding that "lavender" is just a name for Self Blue which is black with 2 lavender genes and was changed when it became a standard color but that people still use. ??

Ditto! I was told Lavender is Self blue and Porcelain is blue cream

So confused!

I think lavender and self blue are the same thing. Self blue is the name of the color and lavender is the gene.
I'm not sure how it works with porcelain and blue cream, I'm not familiar with this color. Sounds like people are using both names for the color. I don't know if there is such thing a porcelain gene??

 

[Sonoran Silkies]

Quote: Yes, it is a work in progress, and as such you may need to keep adding a bit of this or that until you have it right, but once you do, you shouldn't need to breed out anymore. Best people to talk to are George Mihalik and Sherry Humphreys.

 

[Sonoran Silkies]

Quote: the inside toes (4th and 5th) point towards the front of the feet, instead of pointing inward and backwards like they should. These toes are actually tucked under the foot when walking and it shows in their gait. They probably walk like a duck too....

Actually, his gait looks pretty normal. You would not know he has a problem from his walk, but if you look at his feet, yep.

 

[Sonoran Silkies]

Quote: It shouldn't...the birds will be pure for lav, but the presence of Co expands ground colour from gender pattern areas to most of the body.
http://www.edelras.nl/belgians/genetics.htm gives some helpful information, although it is about true porcelains.