Silkie thread!

[Lacrystol]

Here's a good thread for you to read through
https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/392918/anyone-familiar-with-denagard
From my reading you need to give it every month for five days. Be careful what kinds of medicine you mix with it.

7 days is better

 

[Lacrystol]

I will definitely get the Denaguard as I want to keep the 3 hens as symptom-free as possible - especially with two new juvenile hens on order for Spring 2015. Will discuss and let my vet know about the Denaguard when I go in to see him this morning for our Silkie's followup visit. He medically treats birds but he and I are learning much from each other since his clientele are mostly dogs and cats and it thrills him to have our little Silkie as his patient - not too many vets are willing to see chickens and he and his staff are so-o-o good with our little girl - They love how tame and willing she is to go up to them instead of being afraid. Many many thanks to you all!

To Lacrystol: Do you do the Denaguard treatment EVERY month or just during the winter when the CRD seems to flare?

IF you have a flare up, then you need to Double it. go from 8cc per gallon to 16cc per gallon for your monthly preventive only put 8cc per gallon. It's very affective, works within about 2 to 3 days. Treatment should be giving for 7 days though. It's a long lasting protection for any outbreaks and like I stated, CRD can be passed on threw the egg, so there babies can have it before they are born, Denagard protect the eggs from letting that happen.

DONE a LOT of research on diseases such as this, exspecially Mereks I hope there's a cure someday for that nasty disease..

 

[nate1the1great1]

Hey everyone i am now going to become a serious showgirl breeder im going tk try to get 2 generations done next year so I might need to ask yall but im going to have my work cut out for me im already starting to get ready for hatching geese ( my chinese have started to lay already) so im going to try to get my 1st gen in the bator by February

 

[kristin07035]

Hi everyone my showgirl went broody and i purchased her some silkie eggs...after day 10 candling (from shipped eggs) 3 are developing nicely...one is from a buff pen, one is from a paint pen & one is from a BBS pen...can you guys post chick pictures so i can compair and hopefull know which is which after they hatch... I'm thinking the buff will be a yellow color but im thinking the paint and bbs might be similar looking but hoping i will be able to tell them apart sooner than later...they are due to hatch on Christmas Day.

 

[Sylvester017]

Here's a good thread for you to read through
https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/392918/anyone-familiar-with-denagard
From my reading you need to give it every month for five days. Be careful what kinds of medicine you mix with it.

Quote:

IF you have a flare up, then you need to Double it. go from 8cc per gallon to 16cc per gallon for your monthly preventive only put 8cc per gallon. It's very affective, works within about 2 to 3 days. Treatment should be giving for 7 days though. It's a long lasting protection for any outbreaks and like I stated, CRD can be passed on threw the egg, so there babies can have it before they are born, Denagard protect the eggs from letting that happen.

DONE a LOT of research on diseases such as this, exspecially Mereks I hope there's a cure someday for that nasty disease..

I'm with Lacrystol regarding Mareck's and recently read there are about 5 different strains of it too. I don't much like incureable Mycoplasmas either but at least it is somewhat manageable because of all the help you guys are giving me and my vet's wonderful input. Yes, mixing medicines is a no-no so if Denagard is used it shouldn't be used with Tylan. I believe I will save the Tylan for another episode with my Silkie but use the Denaguard as a preventative during flock stress like broodiness, extreme weather changes, molting stress (my hens seem to really get very low appetites during molts), heavy laying cycles, etc - which all these things of one form or another are going on throughout the year it seems!!!

My vet said the U.K. where Denagard is used and where chickens are found just about in every yard, they have cultivated a lot of knowledge re: backyard chickens. Still he is extremely cautious about the use of antibiotics and wants me to be very careful about not using Denagard too much or the illness will develop a resistance to the medicine and not work any more. Broiler and Layer industries (where he once worked) and flock breeders need constant wellness management but he cautions about regular over-used treatments for pet chickens. I only have 3 free-range backyard chickens and will add 2 juveniles in the Spring - I don't breed or want chicks. Do you all still recommend I should use 8cc/gal Denaguard EVERY month for my very small flock? I'm also wondering how many of the wild birds in the yard have picked up CRD to become carriers as well. The little buggers are riddled with lice too.

Also read that about 98% of U.S. flocks have Mycoplasma G or S and that some chickens as carriers don't show symptoms because they are immune to succumbing - but apparently my little Silkie is prone to contract it when our other 2 pets have never shown symptoms. Still the vet recommended to add Tylan to the sick Silkie's as well as outside flock's drinking water since all are obviously exposed (he recommended feeding cooked rice since antibiotic treatments can cause watery poops). The sick Silkie came down with visible symptoms like raspy throat, labored breathing, wheezing, excessive head shaking, complaining voice croak, weight loss - although I've never seen severe watery diarrhea, watery eyes, or runny nostrils like some people have said. He also suggested the usual health maintenance tips like worming, vitamin supplementation, lice/mite protection, etc., like most of us chicken owners are already doing.

I am relieved that I don't have to think about euthanizing my spunky Silkie after everyone's encouraging help and our vet's input. I am just having a difficult time accepting the monthly 8cc/gal Denaguard regimen and maybe use it only during the months of broodiness, molt, or weather extremes - it would be about 5 months or less. For us the symptoms manifested only in the Fall/Winter when cold temps and molting were going on. In SoCalif our weather is warm to a couple weeks of heatwaves in summer so a rare freeze is a shock to our systems.

Thanks Suzierd for the link which I had already perused and for the encouragements! I've read a lot of non-BYC reviews on Denagard also.

 

[Annalog]

Some not very good photos of my Silkies:
A photo of my only bearded Silkie.

Three pullets outside in their pen with some larger chickens watching from their pen.

Broody in nest - this is the one with a small comb that I thought from the beginning might be a male.

 

[Lacrystol]

I'm with Lacrystol regarding Mareck's and recently read there are about 5 different strains of it too.  I don't much like incureable Mycoplasmas either but at least it is somewhat manageable because of all the help you guys are giving me and my vet's wonderful input.  Yes, mixing medicines is a no-no so if Denagard is used it shouldn't be used with Tylan.  I believe I will save the Tylan for another episode with my Silkie but use the Denaguard as a preventative during flock stress like broodiness, extreme weather changes, molting stress (my hens seem to really get very low appetites during molts), heavy laying cycles, etc - which all these things of one form or another are going on throughout the year it seems!!!

My vet said the U.K. where Denagard is used and where chickens are found just about in every yard, they have cultivated a lot of knowledge re: backyard chickens.  Still he is extremely cautious about the use of antibiotics and wants me to be very careful about not using Denagard too much or the illness will develop a resistance to the medicine and not work any more.  Broiler and Layer industries (where he once worked) and flock breeders need constant wellness management but he cautions about regular over-used treatments for pet chickens.  I only have 3 free-range backyard chickens and will add 2 juveniles in the Spring - I don't breed or want chicks.  [COLOR=0000FF]Do you all still recommend I should use 8cc/gal Denaguard EVERY month for my very small flock?[/COLOR]  I'm also wondering how many of the wild birds in the yard have picked up CRD to become carriers as well.  The little buggers are riddled with lice too.

Also read that about 98% of U.S. flocks have Mycoplasma G or S and that some chickens as carriers don't show symptoms because they are immune to succumbing - but apparently my little Silkie is prone to contract it when our other 2 pets have never shown symptoms.  Still the vet recommended to add Tylan to the sick Silkie's as well as outside flock's drinking water since all are obviously exposed (he recommended feeding cooked rice since antibiotic treatments can cause watery poops).  The sick Silkie came down with visible symptoms like raspy throat, labored breathing, wheezing, excessive head shaking, complaining voice croak, weight loss - although I've never seen severe watery diarrhea, watery eyes, or runny nostrils like some people have said.  He also suggested the usual health maintenance tips like worming, vitamin supplementation, lice/mite protection, etc., like most of us chicken owners are already doing.

I am relieved that I don't have to think about euthanizing my spunky Silkie after everyone's encouraging help and our vet's input.  I am just having a difficult time accepting the monthly 8cc/gal Denaguard regimen and maybe use it only during the months of broodiness, molt, or weather extremes - it would be about 5 months or less.  For us the symptoms manifested only in the Fall/Winter when cold temps and molting were going on.  In SoCalif our weather is warm to a couple weeks of heatwaves in summer so a rare freeze is a shock to our systems.

Thanks Suzierd for the link which I had already perused and for the encouragements!  I've read a lot of non-BYC reviews on Denagard also.

uh

The longer its used the more affective it is, I would not recommend using TYLAN with it but why would you? If the denagard works why would you need too.

 

[Lacrystol]

8cc is not a lot. Btw..

 

[Lacrystol]

If your afraid to use it on a preventive bases then perhaps your best bet is to just use the 16cc when there is an out break.

I'm sure with the many outbreaks you have already had is causing a lot of stress on your Silkie, using the preventive solution would reduce that but you would need to make that determination.

 

[Lacrystol]

Also it's not the amount thats your flock that should determine if you should use the preventive treatment or not...it's the fact that your having an issue.. You could have just one chicken in your flock but if it's got CRD then there's a problem that should be or needs some treatment.

This is a disease that isn't going away obviously with all the outbreaks that you have had,. I can't see letting your chicken continue to stress out while you wait for it to have an out break... Why not jump on it while you can and get it under control.

But again it's something you'll have to decide. Your there we are not...

Heck as far as we know the denagard may not be your solution.