Silkie with wry neck best vitamin solution?

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Hey I have a silkie with wry neck and I've been looking online for treatments and everyone always has the same answer which is Vitamine E 400IU and selenium but I have looked around for these and they are very hard to find,(I'm from Belgium) I figure that for the selenium it is best I just make scrambled eggs (I would like to ask how many is ideal, also I should wait till they are completely cold?) When I googled I found this answer "A single large, hard-boiled egg weighing approximately 50 grams contains 15.4 micrograms of selenium." and am unsure if this means that if I would even scramble only 2 eggs, it would already exceed the suggested (25mcg) selenium intake. For the Vitamin E I have had crazy struggles, really no idea where I could even buy this, at my local pharmacy the guy had no idea and he only had some kind of human tablets that were vitamin e+selenium but very small pills and too high dosage (it was so small you couldn't even possibly cut it) I also went to a store that sells lots of products for animals, I have bought a couple different things by now, and was hoping someone could guide me on which would be the best choice, I will link you the ingredients of each of them. You can right click to zoom in on these screenshots too.

Vitamin A-D3-E
https://gyazo.com/5f971c966e4ace6f44af41e0255e9ca1

Klaus Multivitamin
https://gyazo.com/feadd580a12b9c8f2d3db932ed35ec1c

Multi-vit for birds
https://gyazo.com/ffaa7e96ff76e5e220d2164fbbf17bd7
Aveve (name of store) volavit
https://gyazo.com/daeba13d2f6946840e6882d270ac316c
Ingredients of this product not listed on website, so I'll list them myself
Analytical components:
Crude protein 1,3%
Crude fiber 0,5%
Crude fat 1%
Crude ash 5,9%
Sodium 0,02%
Moisture 82,4%
Lysine, Methionine 0%

Additives:(Per Kilo)
Vitamin A 550.000IE
vitamin B1 400mg
vitamin B2 300mg
vitamin B3 1.400mg
vitamin B6 400mg
vitamin B12 100mg
vitamin C 1.500mg
vitamin D3 1.100 IU
vitamin E 900mg
vitamin K3 75mg
choline chloride 10.000mg
biotin 10mg
sensory additives:
Rosehip tincture 20.000mg


Lastly I have AVEVE (store again) VolaVonte
https://gyazo.com/1898d6357cd701bf7744fa0eb18ec0e6
as seen in screenshot it recommends using some kind of oil (mixed with the other AVEVE product i listed for example)

Analytical components:
Crude protein 12.4%
Crude fat 1.9%
Crude fiber 2%
Crude ash 23.5%
Sodium 0.04%
Calcium 8.7%
Phosphorus 1.4%
Methionine 0.8%
Lysine 0.53%



Additives:(Per Kilo)
Vitamine A 40.000 IE
Vitamine D3 8.000 IE
Vitamine E 100mg




This is all I have at home currently, I will await your response and hope we can come to a solution together, if you have any more questions I will be around for a couple hours more.
 
Zachderky said:
Hey I have a silkie with wry neck and I've been looking online for treatments and everyone always has the same answer which is Vitamine E 400IU and selenium but I have looked around for these and they are very hard to find,(I'm from Belgium) I figure that for the selenium it is best I just make scrambled eggs (I would like to ask how many is ideal, also I should wait till they are completely cold?) When I googled I found this answer "A single large, hard-boiled egg weighing approximately 50 grams contains 15.4 micrograms of selenium." and am unsure if this means that if I would even scramble only 2 eggs, it would already exceed the suggested (25mcg) selenium intake. For the Vitamin E I have had crazy struggles, really no idea where I could even buy this, at my local pharmacy the guy had no idea and he only had some kind of human tablets that were vitamin e+selenium but very small pills and too high dosage (it was so small you couldn't even possibly cut it) I also went to a store that sells lots of products for animals, I have bought a couple different things by now, and was hoping someone could guide me on which would be the best choice, I will link you the ingredients of each of them. You can right click to zoom in on these screenshots too.

Vitamin A-D3-E
https://gyazo.com/5f971c966e4ace6f44af41e0255e9ca1

Klaus Multivitamin
https://gyazo.com/feadd580a12b9c8f2d3db932ed35ec1c

Multi-vit for birds
https://gyazo.com/ffaa7e96ff76e5e220d2164fbbf17bd7
Aveve (name of store) volavit
https://gyazo.com/daeba13d2f6946840e6882d270ac316c
Ingredients of this product not listed on website, so I'll list them myself
Analytical components:
Crude protein 1,3%
Crude fiber 0,5%
Crude fat 1%
Crude ash 5,9%
Sodium 0,02%
Moisture 82,4%
Lysine, Methionine 0%

Additives:(Per Kilo)
Vitamin A 550.000IE
vitamin B1 400mg
vitamin B2 300mg
vitamin B3 1.400mg
vitamin B6 400mg
vitamin B12 100mg
vitamin C 1.500mg
vitamin D3 1.100 IU
vitamin E 900mg
vitamin K3 75mg
choline chloride 10.000mg
biotin 10mg
sensory additives:
Rosehip tincture 20.000mg


Lastly I have AVEVE (store again) VolaVonte
https://gyazo.com/1898d6357cd701bf7744fa0eb18ec0e6
as seen in screenshot it recommends using some kind of oil (mixed with the other AVEVE product i listed for example)

Analytical components:
Crude protein 12.4%
Crude fat 1.9%
Crude fiber 2%
Crude ash 23.5%
Sodium 0.04%
Calcium 8.7%
Phosphorus 1.4%
Methionine 0.8%
Lysine 0.53%



Additives:(Per Kilo)
Vitamine A 40.000 IE
Vitamine D3 8.000 IE
Vitamine E 100mg




This is all I have at home currently, I will await your response and hope we can come to a solution together, if you have any more questions I will be around for a couple hours more.
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Hello Zachderky.
Welcome to BYC.
Strangely I'm having similar problems here finding plain vitamin E and a straight B complex. Everything seems to come as Multivitamins deesigned for specific ailments.
Needless to say none are for chickens.
 
Zachderky said:
Hey I have a silkie with wry neck and I've been looking online for treatments and everyone always has the same answer which is Vitamine E 400IU and selenium but I have looked around for these and they are very hard to find,(I'm from Belgium) I figure that for the selenium it is best I just make scrambled eggs (I would like to ask how many is ideal, also I should wait till they are completely cold?) When I googled I found this answer "A single large, hard-boiled egg weighing approximately 50 grams contains 15.4 micrograms of selenium." and am unsure if this means that if I would even scramble only 2 eggs, it would already exceed the suggested (25mcg) selenium intake. For the Vitamin E I have had crazy struggles, really no idea where I could even buy this, at my local pharmacy the guy had no idea and he only had some kind of human tablets that were vitamin e+selenium but very small pills and too high dosage (it was so small you couldn't even possibly cut it) I also went to a store that sells lots of products for animals, I have bought a couple different things by now, and was hoping someone could guide me on which would be the best choice, I will link you the ingredients of each of them. You can right click to zoom in on these screenshots too.

Vitamin A-D3-E
https://gyazo.com/5f971c966e4ace6f44af41e0255e9ca1

Klaus Multivitamin
https://gyazo.com/feadd580a12b9c8f2d3db932ed35ec1c

Multi-vit for birds
https://gyazo.com/ffaa7e96ff76e5e220d2164fbbf17bd7
Aveve (name of store) volavit
https://gyazo.com/daeba13d2f6946840e6882d270ac316c
Ingredients of this product not listed on website, so I'll list them myself
Analytical components:
Crude protein 1,3%
Crude fiber 0,5%
Crude fat 1%
Crude ash 5,9%
Sodium 0,02%
Moisture 82,4%
Lysine, Methionine 0%

Additives:(Per Kilo)
Vitamin A 550.000IE
vitamin B1 400mg
vitamin B2 300mg
vitamin B3 1.400mg
vitamin B6 400mg
vitamin B12 100mg
vitamin C 1.500mg
vitamin D3 1.100 IU
vitamin E 900mg
vitamin K3 75mg
choline chloride 10.000mg
biotin 10mg
sensory additives:
Rosehip tincture 20.000mg


Lastly I have AVEVE (store again) VolaVonte
https://gyazo.com/1898d6357cd701bf7744fa0eb18ec0e6
as seen in screenshot it recommends using some kind of oil (mixed with the other AVEVE product i listed for example)

Analytical components:
Crude protein 12.4%
Crude fat 1.9%
Crude fiber 2%
Crude ash 23.5%
Sodium 0.04%
Calcium 8.7%
Phosphorus 1.4%
Methionine 0.8%
Lysine 0.53%



Additives:(Per Kilo)
Vitamine A 40.000 IE
Vitamine D3 8.000 IE
Vitamine E 100mg




This is all I have at home currently, I will await your response and hope we can come to a solution together, if you have any more questions I will be around for a couple hours more.
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Can you get vitamin E oil?
 
Wyorp Rock said:
Can you get vitamin E oil?
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https://www.bodyenfitshop.nl/vitamines/vitamine-e/swanson-health/vitamine-e-400iu/
Would something like this work? You can right click the page and translate to english or ask me if you're curious about something, if I order within 30 minutes it claims it will be here by tomorrow.


edit: actually found a website that has it in english by default https://www.swansonvitamins.com/swanson-premium-vitamin-e-400-iu-400-iu-60-sgels#product-details

I'm going to sleep now, ordered the gels just in case, if they're good, how many should I be giving daily? there's only about a 9 hour window before it gets dark again. Also any tips on how much eggs I should be scrambling just to kinda get the selenium in there?
 
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Zachderky said:
https://www.bodyenfitshop.nl/vitamines/vitamine-e/swanson-health/vitamine-e-400iu/
Would something like this work? You can right click the page and translate to english or ask me if you're curious about something, if I order within 30 minutes it claims it will be here by tomorrow.


edit: actually found a website that has it in english by default https://www.swansonvitamins.com/swanson-premium-vitamin-e-400-iu-400-iu-60-sgels#product-details

I'm going to sleep now, ordered the gels just in case, if they're good, how many should I be giving daily? there's only about a 9 hour window before it gets dark again. Also any tips on how much eggs I should be scrambling just to kinda get the selenium in there?
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Those will work just fine:)
You can give your girl 1-2 scrambled eggs - it won't hurt her. You just need a small amount of Selenium for the uptake of E.
Eggs are a good source of protein and other nutrients as well.

I do recommend that you try to get some B vitamins into her as well. B1 is important. If those are not available as a supplement, you can give a little Beef Liver or crushed nuts.
Sometimes it's hard to find exactly what everyone recommends, you just have to think outside the box. Remember everything in moderation.
 
Zachderky said:
So even though I ordered yesterday within the time limit, they say because of Black Friday, deliveries can have a delay and they give a tracking number as soon as it's sent, I haven't received one by now and it's 9AM which basically means it's not going to arrive today, can I use any of the products I listed for today?
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Do you have the Multi Vits for birds?
That would be o.k. for a few days, follow the instructions on the label.
 

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