Smokey color gene in chickens?

[MysteryChicken]

I know about blue colour. But please belive me it gives no dominant blue in this land. I don't see splash last 13 jears. I found smoky when I cross dominant white with a FFS rooster. But with my blue chicken I have same result. This smoky on pikture have maby milanotic?

This one is splash.

I'll get a picture of one on of my splash for comparison tomorrow.

 

[MysteryChicken]

I know about blue colour. But please belive me it gives no dominant blue in this land. I don't see splash last 13 jears. I found smoky when I cross dominant white with a FFS rooster. But with my blue chicken I have same result. This smoky on pikture have maby milanotic?

Ml, or Melanized would create a laced pattern on a smoky bird.

 

[Smoky joe]

I made now a few pics from my chicken.

A besse rooster with a siver and a golden dark brown henn

A chick smoky. Not splash ore dominant blue. But recesive barred

 

[Amer]

Smokey is almost Black in appearance, like a dark blue.
Guaranteed the I one pointed out is splash, as blue is a very common color in chickens everywhere.
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Smoky can be lighter as well. Conversely, blue can be darker.
My blues were almost black. There are few photo examples of smoky variation on the internet so appearance alone cannot prove nor disprove this.

 

[Smoky joe]

I think same. Melanotic and darkener can work. I have not melanotic in my coop. But I don't belife it's a new mutation. I heare from a friend not all FFS and FFG have smoky. Maby there was a remutation of smoky.

 

[MysteryChicken]

Smoky can be lighter as well. Conversely, blue can be darker.
My blues were almost black. There are few photo examples of smoky variation on the internet so appearance alone cannot prove nor disprove this.

Okay, but they could at least play around with their blueish birds, breed them together, & only from the blueish birds to see if splash is actually produced.

Breeding blueish to only Whites which are often on black base would only produce Blueish, Blacks, & possibly more whites.

 

[Smoky joe]

I try with a bresse rooster, a silver and a gold smoky.
This siver rooster with 2 II and two smoky I^S I?

 

[Smoky joe]

Today I slaughtered my first roosters from the Smoky brood. They were 90 days old and weighed around 1450 grams when fasting.
I inspected the roosters that appeared white to me and found smoky-colored feathers on all of them. No black or wild-colored ones. But how can it be that I get dominant white animals again from I^S I^S? It may be that I have two different Smokys. Let's say I^S1 and I^S2. If both alleles are mated, a smoky animal will be born, but also an e+ or Ee. If both, I^S1 and I^S2, complement each other, an I will come again?
It is also surprising why all the wild or black-colored chicks are piebald. My first brood with the original Bress rooster has hatched. All the chicks are white, some with spots in their down. The silver rooster now has 4 white chicks and one black-piebald chick with new hens. One hen is Ii and so the black chick is understandable. All piebalds show smoky color in the white areas. Solid whites are more or less smoky and predominantly white. Some have a smoky tail and a white body with red inclusions.

 

[MysteryChicken]

Today I slaughtered my first roosters from the Smoky brood. They were 90 days old and weighed around 1450 grams when fasting.
I inspected the roosters that appeared white to me and found smoky-colored feathers on all of them. No black or wild-colored ones. But how can it be that I get dominant white animals again from I^S I^S? It may be that I have two different Smokys. Let's say I^S1 and I^S2. If both alleles are mated, a smoky animal will be born, but also an e+ or Ee. If both, I^S1 and I^S2, complement each other, an I will come again?
It is also surprising why all the wild or black-colored chicks are piebald. My first brood with the original Bress rooster has hatched. All the chicks are white, some with spots in their down. The silver rooster now has 4 white chicks and one black-piebald chick with new hens. One hen is Ii and so the black chick is understandable. All piebalds show smoky color in the white areas. Solid whites are more or less smoky and predominantly white. Some have a smoky tail and a white body with red inclusions.View attachment 4029118
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His coloration is like my dirty paint I have. It's caused by Autosomal Red. I'll get pictures in a bit.

 

[Amer]

Today I slaughtered my first roosters from the Smoky brood. They were 90 days old and weighed around 1450 grams when fasting.
I inspected the roosters that appeared white to me and found smoky-colored feathers on all of them. No black or wild-colored ones. But how can it be that I get dominant white animals again from I^S I^S? It may be that I have two different Smokys. Let's say I^S1 and I^S2. If both alleles are mated, a smoky animal will be born, but also an e+ or Ee. If both, I^S1 and I^S2, complement each other, an I will come again?
It is also surprising why all the wild or black-colored chicks are piebald. My first brood with the original Bress rooster has hatched. All the chicks are white, some with spots in their down. The silver rooster now has 4 white chicks and one black-piebald chick with new hens. One hen is Ii and so the black chick is understandable. All piebalds show smoky color in the white areas. Solid whites are more or less smoky and predominantly white. Some have a smoky tail and a white body with red inclusions.View attachment 4029118
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Perhaps your dominant white Bresse is genetically splash under the white. Then all of his chicks would be blue paint instead of black paint.