snakes

I'm a vet tech and I have seen what a snake bite can do, that's why the people a mile down the trail heard my screams and thought someone was being murdered.   I still understand the WEB of life and its delicate balance, once you learn and understand something, its hard to un-learn it.  The only thing you can do is to endeavour to be willfully ignorant.  

I used to have corn snakes too.  They are wonderful, so mellow and beautiful.  I had a red and a dilution.  I got bored of them hiding under their rug all of the time.  Unless I was feeding them, it looked like I owned a pet rock.  I gave away the snakes and kept the rats, they're much more social animals.    

My favorite snake was an Eastern King, tame as a puppy. My corn is a hypo-melanistic - very little black on him. I believe they use those to breed some of the different colors.

I think a lot people that are really dedicated to certain things get tunnel vision to where the thing that they are so dedicated to is about all that matters to them above everything else. People with pet mice or rats dislike snake keepers that feed their pet snakes cute little mice and rats (and bunnies and chicks). Snake people hate dogs and cats (and people) that kill wild snakes. People that have dogs high up on a throne in their life hate people who kill a dog that has killed their chickens. It just goes on and on and on... But when people put the well being of an animal above the well being of a human, that person is way out of balance in life. Even the bible talks about people worshipping something that has been created (such as an animal) instead of the one that created it (God).
 
We have a wonderful large resident bullsnake. Love her for our rodent population n she lives in r huge quansit hut (100' x 40'.) I had to catch her to measure her n she's longer than I am tall. I'm 5' n she's more than 5'3" as stretched as we could get her.

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We have a wonderful large resident bullsnake. Love her for our rodent population n she lives in r huge quansit hut (100' x 40'.) I had to catch her to measure her n she's longer than I am tall. I'm 5' n she's more than 5'3" as stretched as we could get her.


Pretty she didn't poop on ya? anytime I have to remove one from the netting they do their best to poop on me.. I really hate the smell bad as peacock poop when they are scared.
 
if you are a vet tech then you know not just cats but the introduced mice, starlings, rats, snakes (cat prey) also lead to huge demise of song bird populations. Song birds cannot escape huge populations of starlings, rats and mice. Cats can be made fools of. Not the other smaller pests.

You will also know the leading cause of song bird demise is humans? Last vet techs are suppose to take an oath to help all animals. Before we even start it is made clear we can't hate on a species.
 
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Well... I'm soooo mad. I'm having a big problem with snakes eating and/or just killing my young chickens around 8 weeks old, a baby turkey about the same age and even a 6 week old peacock who was in a different enclosure. Needless to say, my eggs are disappearing at an even greater speed. My chickens and turkeys are in an outdoor pen and my peacocks are in a big outdoor peacock palace I built for them to keep them "safe" from predators. BTY, in one pen I have chickens, guineas, and turkeys and I have found 2 serrama chickens that look like the snake tried to eat and regurgitated them back because she could not swallow them, but nerveless they were dead. HELP PLEASE!!!!!!!
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Good Grief, I've been searching to see if snakes will be a problem if I put my White Bobwhite Quail in an aviary wrapped in 1" by 2" wire. Obviously YES!! Thank goodness I read your posting Ebe because recently finished a 10' by 12' building with an outside run I'd probably have let peachicks use but will now keep them in the safe building until they are older then 6 weeks. I only had peafowl until someone recently gave me the White Bobwhites and see I'm going to have a problem keeping them safe. Up to now I've never had a peafowl egg taken by a predator or snake in the huge habitat we built. I've found a few tiny snakes in there. Friend about 1/2 mile away has horrible snake problem but he has lots and lots of poultry/fowl/birds. His loses are high and he kills a lot of snakes, some huge. Ugh! I may decide to rehome these precious White Quail. Not sure I have a habitat safe enough for them. So far people I've asked want to throw them on the bbq pit. I want them to die of old age, LOL!!

So sorry for your loss ebe. Arent the Serrama chickens those that are black throughout?
 
Remember if a snake can get in so can a rat and rats can be a worse deal than a snake, they can and will eat a chick alive and will also take eggs.
I raise all my babies in ground brooders and have to keep a bait station under the hot box to keep the ones that make it in at bay.
 
my dogs pretty much take care of any snake in the area and i have never gotten one in my brooder but the dogs have gotten 2 next to the brooder last year trying to get in after the birds alerted them with all their racket.





Gracie caught this one at a peahens nest, it had already eaten one egg and had another in it's mouth .


 
Great pictures of your dogs getting snakes Zazouse. I read about the respect the shock collar taught your dog. I'm a senior and up past my eyeballs caring for 2 Mini Aussies, 2 cats, an abundance of peafowl and now the quail. Don't have the energy to take on another dog or 2. I would if it/they were already trained and trustworthy of leaving the birds alone but those are impossible to find. My Aussies leave the birds alone but they are inside couch potatoes, haha!!

I've only seen one rat on the property but have found a few mice that drowned in the buckets of water I keep in the aviary for the peafowl. I'm sure if I knew how many were lurking I'd keel over dead, LOL!!! I have a 3' by 10' pen built up on the side of a wall at the back of a 10' by 30' pen where with a little work I think the quail will be safe. Is that large enough for a dozen quail?

Thanks much for the reply.
 

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