So confused.. another chicken with raspy breathing

[WillowMoonWyandottes]

Here’s a thread to give some backstory to the respiratory issues I’ve been having. https://www.backyardchickens.com/threads/questions-about-respiratory-disease.1476291/
My birds have been going through a lot of different issues including respiratory issues, coccidia, worms and lice but the respiratory problems had cleared up but now one of my 2 year old hens is having raspy breathing, she is still laying eggs but I’ve just noticed it today. Doesn’t look like she has any discharge from her nose and no sneezing. I’ve been treating my birds for lice with permethrin dust, could that have caused this? Also could it be a problem with her crop? She does have a certain smell coming from her mouth not sure how to describe it. Her crop feels soft and I would say it’s pretty full. If it’s something with her crop how can I help her?

Edit: the pullet in the original thread with the raspy breathing had gotten better but just a second ago she coughed up yellow mucus so I’m assuming she is still sick also…

Edit again: I think my 2 year old hen has sour crop after doing more research, what is the easiest and most affordable way to treat it?

 

[Wyorp Rock]

Also could it be a problem with her crop? She does have a certain smell coming from her mouth not sure how to describe it. Her crop feels soft and I would say it’s pretty full. If it’s something with her crop how can I help her?

Edit: the pullet in the original thread with the raspy breathing had gotten better but just a second ago she coughed up yellow mucus so I’m assuming she is still sick also

Please look inside their beaks for lesions or canker.

The hen with the crop problem, does she lay eggs? Any swelling or bloat in the abdomen?

Here's crop treatments
https://www.backyardchickens.com/ar...w-to-know-which-one-youre-dealing-with.73607/

 

[WillowMoonWyandottes]

Please look inside their beaks for lesions or canker.

The hen with the crop problem, does she lay eggs? Any swelling or bloat in the abdomen?

Here's crop treatments
https://www.backyardchickens.com/ar...w-to-know-which-one-youre-dealing-with.73607/

I looked inside both of their beaks very well and I don’t see any lesions or canker.

The hens crop went down, this morning when I checked it was empty, no more smell coming from her beak. She has been laying eggs and layed one yesterday when the gurgling started but she hasn’t layed one today. I really can’t tell if there is any swelling. She is still sounding like she is gurgling when she breathes and has started coughing.

 

[aart]

Just because respiratory symptoms are gone, doesn't mean the disease is gone.
Many can lay dormant(no symptoms) then flare up.

 

[WillowMoonWyandottes]

Just because respiratory symptoms are gone, doesn't mean the disease is gone.
Many can lay dormant(no symptoms) then flare up.

I sent a bird to my state lab and they said the bird I sent was healthy.. why do respiratory symptoms keep reappearing if they are healthy? That’s what’s confusing me, does this happen with Infections Bronchitis? That’s the only thing they didn’t test for. How can I treat her symptoms?

 

[Wyorp Rock]

I would still monitor the crop.

You mention in your other thread that you ordered Denagard, have you tried that yet?
How about the lice, have those been treated/eliminated?

A video of the hen(s), actions and what they sound like might be helpful.

How much ventilation in their housing?

Hard to know which direction you should go, it seems like you have a lot of issues going on.
Sometimes going back to the basics - fresh food, fresh water, clean housing, eliminating parasites, ensuring adequate ventilation in house, culling birds that are not thriving, etc. etc. is where you start. Evaluate everything as you go.



https://www.backyardchickens.com/threads/questions-about-respiratory-disease.1476291/page-2

https://www.backyardchickens.com/th...ethrin-for-treating-lice-on-chickens.1484150/

 

[WillowMoonWyandottes]

You mention in your other thread that you ordered Denagard, have you tried that yet?

No haven’t tried it yet because it’s meant to treat MG and my birds were negative for that but I may give it a try anyway.

How about the lice, have those been treated/eliminated?

I’ve done 3 treatments so far with permethrin dust and concentrate, they are still losing a lot of feathers but I haven’t seen any lice on them.

How much ventilation in their housing?

front and back of their pens are open, I have a long pen with dividers. There is a hallway down the center with pens on each side, the doors of the pens are in the middle hallway.

 

[Wyorp Rock]

I would like some pens like that!

I'm not sure what else you can do. For the one hen, you may want to try the denagard and see what happens. I would still make sure her crop is emptying overnight too.

 

[WillowMoonWyandottes]

I think I posted it right, let me know if it works.

Also more of my birds have started showing these same symptoms

 

[aart]

I sent a bird to my state lab and they said the bird I sent was healthy.

Did they send a report showing what all they tested for?