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even the IPCC only thinks 20 inches or so of sea level rise. Going with the flow would be MUCH cheaper.
Even at that, I think the IPCC overestimates the damage of warming and underestimates the benefits. North Dakotans and Russians sure ain't scared of a little warming.
I wouldn't mind being moved to Zone 8, either.
Ok first off on climate change, Q9 I vehemently disagree with "your type"on this subject.. I am surprised you even acknowledge climate change....
20 inches of sea level change puts what 1/4 of the worlds population underwater, along with the a substantial, amount of low lying flood plain..ie fertile land!!
Yikes! I do not take that lightly.. (Or is it I live on high ground who cares what happens to those poor folks in Bangladesh on low ground??)
Besides it is not the water level increase from the ice caps melting that concerns me, it is the rate that they melt.. Changing ocean currents sending places like Europe into an ice age..... I see no way for us to go with the flow and build cities and farm on mile thick sheets of ice...
Going with the flow is cheaper for who? The current wealthy? The current polluters? Besides I see business and profit opportunities in a new economy not based on oil. I live in the forest and own tracts of forest land... I can make money by selling carbon credits...
I won't go any further on that but use the leaving the oil based to make my next point... ...............
.............I agree with Dunkopf, we will not be getting to far in space travel until we develop better propulsion systems and IMO better fuel sources... My personal dream is that in my life time we outgrow fossil fuel.. Why, because I dream of great leaps and bounds in technology growth for our species once we leave the internal combustion engine behind..... Driving that technology just for going to the moon, is to expensive, the technology needs do be driven by practical needs hear on earth...
Then again it is a good thing we can not go to far....(Keeping our greedy destructive narrow minded nature contained to just one planet..)
Yepper.... I did love the movie Avatar.... Thats how I see a certain group of people in the USA behave. (It is all about profit, and kill anything different than you.....)..
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Well, it's hard to disagree that change is happening. It's just not catastrophic to any degree. The IPCC used to promote Michael Mann's horribly disproven "Hockey Stick" chart, and then later took it out when they were called on it. They're about as reliable as an uncleaned M-16 in Southeast Asia.
Sorry, had to make the gun analogy...
The fact is, the caps are not melting catastrophically. Even supposing ALL of Greenland's ice melted, it would mostly form a gigantic lake due to the bowl-like depression made by its own weight. Antarctica, as mentioned before, is cooling, so no worries except from the rather small Peninsula. The Polar ice sheets wouldn't create any rise at all, even if they all melted. The IPCC is absolutely loony, IMHO.
Besides, fossil fuels are NOT even a remotely likely cause of warming. The one puny degree we've experienced over the past century took place mostly before WWII, before GHG emissions were significant. Around the 60's, there was a cooling trend until near the end of the century. It has since been warming at a miniscule degree. Also, humans account for a grand 3% of total CO2 emissions, and that includes breathing. A slightly larger percent for methane, but still insignificant. Any time a volcano burps, it puts a ton of GHGs into the sky.
Interesting tidbit - the EU is actually increasing emissions faster than the US.
