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Oh My Gosh! I think Im in Love!
Oh My Gosh! I think Im in Love!
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Oh My Gosh! I think Im in Love!
Both have custom trigger work too.
Oh My Gosh! I think Im in Love!
Both have custom trigger work too.
Amazondoc, you have recieved some good advice and your on the right track with contacting the gun club for instruction, while there you may make some good friends who are more than willing to care for any predators you have.
As for my thoughts on a firearm for you it would be a single shot 12 Ga. shot gun.
Heres why,, to start they are simple to use and care for,
and much easier to make a fast kill shot than with a .22,,
with O buckshot you will have a very lethal cloud of twenty .30 caliber pellets.
I would NEVER use rock salt, it will break skin possibly leading to infection and anyways you made it bleed. If your gonna shoot it, kill it, you don't want a wounded animal running around
There are commercially loaded NON-LETHAL rounds for a 12 Ga. such as rubber shot or bullets and caspium pepper, a much better choice if your intent is detering two legged varmits
As for my thoughts on a firearm for you it would be a single shot 12 Ga. shot gun.
Heres why,, to start they are simple to use and care for,
and much easier to make a fast kill shot than with a .22,,
with O buckshot you will have a very lethal cloud of twenty .30 caliber pellets.
I would NEVER use rock salt, it will break skin possibly leading to infection and anyways you made it bleed. If your gonna shoot it, kill it, you don't want a wounded animal running around
There are commercially loaded NON-LETHAL rounds for a 12 Ga. such as rubber shot or bullets and caspium pepper, a much better choice if your intent is detering two legged varmits
I keep a double barrel 410 and 16 gauge pump loaded at all times. The 410 at the back door chicken and meat rabbit protection from 4 legged predators. It is also my gun of choice for squirrels (that chew holes in my house) and rabbits that eat my garden. These pest also become additions to the meat in my freezer. The 16 gague at the front door as a deterent to what ever 2 legged pest might arrive.
At 5'6" and 124 lbs both the guns work well with minimum kick and your aim does not have to be perfect. With the 410 I have 2 chances. With the 16 gague I have lots of chances and just as fast as I can pump them in and I am pretty fast.
But SAFETY is number one priority. If you own a gun you must 1st "Be prepared to use it". 2nd "You can never, ever, become so accustomed to it being there that you don't think about it".
Curious kids - and adults that visit can hurt themselves and you. Since both guns are in plain site in my house all guest are made aware of them before entering. If they have children they are ask to wait on the porch until I secure the guns.
At 5'6" and 124 lbs both the guns work well with minimum kick and your aim does not have to be perfect. With the 410 I have 2 chances. With the 16 gague I have lots of chances and just as fast as I can pump them in and I am pretty fast.
But SAFETY is number one priority. If you own a gun you must 1st "Be prepared to use it". 2nd "You can never, ever, become so accustomed to it being there that you don't think about it".
Curious kids - and adults that visit can hurt themselves and you. Since both guns are in plain site in my house all guest are made aware of them before entering. If they have children they are ask to wait on the porch until I secure the guns.
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Amazondoc:
As you know most firearms are by design "lethal".
Important: off-the-shelf shotgun shells that have simply been opened and repacked with a different type projectile still have a full charge of powder and thus can still deliver deadly force.
Non-lethal cartridges and shotshells are commerically available, making your own may or may not produce the desired result.
Agreed, it would be very adviseable to first become knowledgeable and proficient with any firearm before adding it to your defensive system.
As for "people", legal posting of the property with No Trespassing signs and then prosecute the violators has always worked for me.
With regard to firearm related deaths, I personally have never known of a gun that would kill a person unless another person was holding it.
Good Luck, Be Safe
Kentucky
Kentucky
As you know most firearms are by design "lethal".
Important: off-the-shelf shotgun shells that have simply been opened and repacked with a different type projectile still have a full charge of powder and thus can still deliver deadly force.
Non-lethal cartridges and shotshells are commerically available, making your own may or may not produce the desired result.
Agreed, it would be very adviseable to first become knowledgeable and proficient with any firearm before adding it to your defensive system.
As for "people", legal posting of the property with No Trespassing signs and then prosecute the violators has always worked for me.
With regard to firearm related deaths, I personally have never known of a gun that would kill a person unless another person was holding it.
Good Luck, Be Safe
Kentucky
Kentucky
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Ah-hah, thanks for this info!
Right now I am thinking about a 20 gauge shotgun -- but of course this is subject to change. I started to think this way because, although I am plenty large enough to deal with recoil, I DO have two bad shoulders. I spent about a year dealing with very painful bursitis/rotator cuff issues on both sides -- so I would be just as happy to NOT piss off my shoulders again!
I started looking at the Benelli Nova pump action last night. Who knows what I'll actually end up with -- if anything! -- and I'll definitely wait to see about firearms classes.
Thanks again, guys, you've given me lots to think about!
Ah-hah, thanks for this info!
Right now I am thinking about a 20 gauge shotgun -- but of course this is subject to change. I started to think this way because, although I am plenty large enough to deal with recoil, I DO have two bad shoulders. I spent about a year dealing with very painful bursitis/rotator cuff issues on both sides -- so I would be just as happy to NOT piss off my shoulders again!
I started looking at the Benelli Nova pump action last night. Who knows what I'll actually end up with -- if anything! -- and I'll definitely wait to see about firearms classes.
Thanks again, guys, you've given me lots to think about!
You can get buckshot and slugs for a 20 ga. For predators I believe in over kill, for I never want to just injure anything. I will pass up any shot that will not be a clean kill. Never think non leathal will deter the predator from returning. When you kill a predator it will not return.
I have several guns. The problem with guns is they dont protect your flock if you are not behind them!
Good buildings, pens, coops, etc. are the key to a flock withstanding an attack. I have found an electric fence works best when they are "properly installed" will send them back home to stay while U are asleep or just not around. When these fellers get shocked they dont know where it came from or how all they know is stay the hell away from that area. A good outfit will cost U about $200 complete and properly installed. As for self protection go to a reliable gun dealer they will help you.
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Yupyupyup, I'm with ya here. At the new place I've already got a secure coop and completely enclosed chicken yard, which I'll be expanding. I've been thinking about the electric fence option as well, but I'm not sure I want to deal with it. Maybe I'll ask about electric fences in my next thread here.
As for "reliable" gun dealers, how is a newbie supposed to know who is reliable and who isn't?
Yupyupyup, I'm with ya here. At the new place I've already got a secure coop and completely enclosed chicken yard, which I'll be expanding. I've been thinking about the electric fence option as well, but I'm not sure I want to deal with it. Maybe I'll ask about electric fences in my next thread here.
As for "reliable" gun dealers, how is a newbie supposed to know who is reliable and who isn't?
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