Spot’s Coturnix quail colour experiments

[SpotTheCat]

Where I got my information

Lost of different genes
https://www.jstage.jst.go.jp/article/jpsa/45/3/45_3_159/_pdf/-char/en

Fawn 2/Italian/golden
https://academic.oup.com/jhered/article/87/3/248/908629

Roux, Lavender and beige
https://www.researchgate.net/public..._Mutations_on_Plumage_Color_of_Japanese_Quail

Silver/blue
https://www.researchgate.net/public...ts_and_homology_with_the_blue_chicken_plumage

Lavender and recessive white
https://www.researchgate.net/public...white_With_Chicken_and_Japanese_Quail_Hybrids
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0032579119553044

pansy
https://www.jstage.jst.go.jp/article/jpsa1964/24/6/24_6_327/_article/-char/en

Redhead (not everyone can access all of it, but the abstract is still interesting)
https://academic.oup.com/jhered/article-abstract/70/6/413/774513?redirectedFrom=fulltext

 

[SpotTheCat]

Lethal white (I think called SCC also) not 100% sure if that is what they are
batch 2, bought from ebay
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[SpotTheCat]

weird chocolate coloured one, from a Tibetan and a Range carrying Roux. Siblings are a all most solid redish orange I will post pictures of them when I find some. I think the siblings are Roux Range and this one was Roux Tibetan. Unfortunately it had to be culled because its feet were wonky

 

[Tre3hugger]

 

[FloorCandy]

weird chocolate coloured one, from a Tibetan and a Range carrying Roux. Siblings are a all most solid redish orange I will post pictures of them when I find some. I think the siblings are Roux Range and this one was Roux Tibetan. Unfortunately it had to be culled because its feet were wonky
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I had one like that, it ended up being as red as the others as an adult, it just had no lacing or pencilling. I called it cocoa, and it ended up a lovely smooth scarlet.

 

[FloorCandy]

Lethal white (I think called SCC also) not 100% sure if that is what they are
batch 2, bought from ebay
Chick 1
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2
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3
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The SSC lethal whites will be 100% yellow at hatch and will grow up white with no color at all. They usually feather more slowly and are smaller. Females have more long term issues in my experience. If these came from eggs sold as containing lethal whites, they probably are mating silver to silver, so only 25% would be lethal whites, just like Merle in dogs. 50% would be silver, and 25% will be undiluted (no silver). It’s hard to tell if they have no silver in many cases because silver can be so dark gray it looks black when the black is just an accent.

I’ve been slowly curating some double silvers I hatched originally from Myshire eggs, and finding one who isn’t bug eyed and doesn’t have issues goes a long way to developing a healthy group of them. I think I had a rooster in the henhouse with some silvers I moved from the grow out, and I got some bug eyed weirdos, but my healthy male throws generally healthy double silver chicks, they are definitely smaller in general and much more sensitive, so harder to raise the first week or so, keeping them alive is a learning curve, but they are noticeably lighter meat and far less gamey so I’d like a healthy group for meat birds.

 

[SpotTheCat]

The SSC lethal whites will be 100% yellow at hatch and will grow up white with no color at all. They usually feather more slowly and are smaller. Females have more long term issues in my experience. If these came from eggs sold as containing lethal whites, they probably are mating silver to silver, so only 25% would be lethal whites, just like Merle in dogs. 50% would be silver, and 25% will be undiluted (no silver). It’s hard to tell if they have no silver in many cases because silver can be so dark gray it looks black when the black is just an accent.

I’ve been slowly curating some double silvers I hatched originally from Myshire eggs, and finding one who isn’t bug eyed and doesn’t have issues goes a long way to developing a healthy group of them. I think I had a rooster in the henhouse with some silvers I moved from the grow out, and I got some bug eyed weirdos, but my healthy male throws generally healthy double silver chicks, they are definitely smaller in general and much more sensitive, so harder to raise the first week or so, keeping them alive is a learning curve, but they are noticeably lighter meat and far less gamey so I’d like a healthy group for meat birds.

Lethal white is the name of th gene, not the homozygous version of something. Pretty sure it is not the silver gene. I can’t remember what they where labled as differently not as Lethal white or Silver

 

[FloorCandy]

Lethal white is the name of th gene, not the homozygous version of something. Pretty sure it is not the silver gene. I can’t remember what they where labled as differently not as Lethal white or Silver

Recessive white?

 

[SpotTheCat]

Recessive white?

It seems to be dominant. I have pictures of the adults, but the camera the pictures or on has decided not to let me get them off at the moment. The one adult who is chick 3 started grey with sandy yellow stripes and now has turn in to a grey, yellow and orange sort of marbled look. Chick I think 1 maybe 2 is white with a sandy yellow edge to the feathers and a bit of grey on his head he got darker as he has aged. Chick probably 2 was a sandy yellow he was culled so I don’t know what he’s colours would have changed to

 

[FloorCandy]

It seems to be dominant. I have pictures of the adults, but the camera the pictures or on has decided not to let me get them off at the moment. The one adult who is chick 3 started grey with sandy yellow stripes and now has turn in to a grey, yellow and orange sort of marbled look. Chick I think 1 maybe 2 is white with a sandy yellow edge to the feathers and a bit of grey on his head he got darker as he has aged. Chick probably 2 was a sandy yellow he was culled so I don’t know what he’s colours would have changed to

Those all seem normal if they have SSC (Silver), which is incompletely dominant. If you can find the original eBay ad for the eggs I’d be curious to read the description.