Update on what I'm 'batin' for the HAL,,my first. Batch one-My Maran look good so far, candled tonight and have Def movement in 4. Threw out 4, and rest (6) look good as far as I can tell..very dark eggs and they were shipped. Marilyn and Elvis had 4 out of 5 with Def movement and very strong little kickers. That's what I had for HAL....but.....bought another Styrofoam Bator for a "hatcher",,,,but...seems I couldn't resist the auction thing and so Friday I started 16 silkys, 12 chamois spitz, 8 legbars, 4 auto sexing ee., and 11 cemanis. Oh yeah, and 4 of my duck eggs just for fun...guess I'm gonna have to get another hatcher,,lol.