Still really sick. I need advice

[coleridgedane]

I honestly wish her the best & am sending good good thoughts for Mary. I think you're doing everything that you can. My advise is to simply add to her nutrition to help her battle all that's going on.

I'd try kefir 1st, if you can find it at your local grocer or health food store. Then I'd try real organic yogurt mixed w some cooked oatmeal.

Although it won't cure, it will definitely supplement her immune system & keep the antibiotics from making her sick.

Sending you hugs. I hate being in that situation with any animal.

 

[coleridgedane]

Also, you'd probably want to have her water full of those vitamin/electrolyte packages, or Pedialyte.

 

[seminolewind]

The only other thing I can think of is that since the fecal sample you took in was so small, and the vet couldn't really tell you what the problem was, MAYBE it's something that the meds you had her on won't kill?? Do you have anything more broad-spectrum or just plain different onhand? They're going to start calling me the penicillin queen - but it's my "go-to" resource when I'm out of options.

I think I would do that too-be a penicillin queen or an LS-50 queen. Those pics look like she has a bluish comb. Does she?

 

[PattyO]

You can not quantify parasite load through a microscopic fecal floatation. That is a fact

 

[PattyO]

Dee, I read your other post in your link you provided. Albon treats 2 types of cocci, fowl cholera, and coryza. Seven days treating with albon is enough, dont use it anymore.
It is normal to have a few cocci on a microscopic slide, but when the slide is filled with the protozoa, the health of the chicken is in jeopardy. Corid treats all 9 types of cocci that chickens can get.
Since you only saw a few cocci on the slide, green diarrhea could indicate a possible bacterial infection...ecoli. Like cocci, ecoli bacteria are in chickens as well. Good bacteria keeps it in check. It's when some type of stress (anything really) can send the ecoli out of control causing your Mary to get sick.
Treatment for ecoli is probiotics, nutri drench, and baytril. Normally IF you catch it soon enough, the good bacteria will beat back the bad bacteria (ecoli.) You want to be aggressive treating ecoli; aureomycin will treat it, but baytril is more potent. Tube feeding with the probiotics (buttermilk or store bought probiotics for birds,) nutri drench and baytril mixed together as a slurry is recommended. You can also continue with the corid treatment as well, it wont hurt and you should see improvement in 3 days IF in fact it is a different type of cocci that the albon couldnt treat.
I've dealt with ecoli, the end result wasnt good. I wish you the best.

 

[PattyO]

Forgot to use the quote thing so it was out of context. Just wanted to clarify with fecal analysis for intestinal parasties. The amount of ova seen on the slide are not indicitive with the actual parasite load of the animal. It just tells you what they have. In the older days they would write pluses for the amount seen on slide. This is just the basic floation, centrifugation or direct fecal slides. Not talking about what they use for large animals where they can determine acceptable load.

 

[PattyO]

Dee, I read your other post in your link you provided. Albon treats 2 types of cocci, fowl cholera, and coryza. Seven days treating with albon is enough, dont use it anymore.
It is normal to have a few cocci on a microscopic slide, but when the slide is filled with the protozoa, the health of the chicken is in jeopardy. Corid treats all 9 types of cocci that chickens can get.
Since you only saw a few cocci on the slide, green diarrhea could indicate a possible bacterial infection...ecoli. Like cocci, ecoli bacteria are in chickens as well. Good bacteria keeps it in check. It's when some type of stress (anything really) can send the ecoli out of control causing your Mary to get sick.
Treatment for ecoli is probiotics, nutri drench, and baytril. Normally IF you catch it soon enough, the good bacteria will beat back the bad bacteria (ecoli.) You want to be aggressive treating ecoli; aureomycin will treat it, but baytril is more potent. Tube feeding with the probiotics (buttermilk or store bought probiotics for birds,) nutri drench and baytril mixed together as a slurry is recommended. You can also continue with the corid treatment as well, it wont hurt and you should see improvement in 3 days IF in fact it is a different type of cocci that the albon couldnt treat.
I've dealt with ecoli, the end result wasnt good. I wish you the best.

 

[PattyO]

You say cocci but that is a bacteria. I think you mean coccidia which is a protozoa. There will always be cocci in feces.

That is the nature of poop, lots of bacteria. You can have bacterial overgrowth or an imbalance if you will. The Albon you mentioned was prescribed for the possibility of coccidia.

 

[dawg53]

You say cocci but that is a bacteria. I think you mean coccidia which is a protozoa. There will always be cocci in feces.

That is the nature of poop, lots of bacteria. You can have bacterial overgrowth or an imbalance if you will. The Albon you mentioned was prescribed for the possibility of coccidia.

You are correct, as I am as well. Cocci (for short) = coccidia.
http://msucares.com/poultry/diseases/disproto.htm
In any case, corid (amprolium) treats all 9 that chickens can get.

 

[fishnet1971]

I think I would do that too-be a penicillin queen or an LS-50 queen. Those pics look like she has a bluish comb. Does she?

it was really pale for awhile - her comb and wattle. Today they seem to have some color back in them. I swear they were a ghostly white. It was so scarey to see. They really to seem to be a nice shade of red today. that is a plus