Stolen Horse--Man is BACK in jail!

[rebecky1305]

Fingers crossed and waiting! Good luck. I won't be able to check back until this evening, but my prayers are with you.

 

[Rin]

MomtoSyd&Emma :

ok here comes Mom thoughts, its not the small childs fault ANY of this, the adults are jerks as we know, but have you thought about asking if you could email or mail the child photos of Max, and let him know how he is doing? I am sure he is attached to him, and will miss him.

Ugh those idiot adults are going to crush that lil boy today, and it could of been avoided if they had NEVER done this to you Ro or Max.

Well, the thing I'm thinking is the man knew the horse was stolen(by his own words he admitted there was question) and stashed it there until he was sure.

They can't go after a kid for a stolen horse but he could have gotten in trouble for having it on his own property. (Think of it as being caught with a stolen radio in your car - maybe you didn't steal it - but they'd still arrest you in the meantime to be sure)

With that thought in mind, I somehow doubt the kid at any point /actually/ was told it was his horse. That he was told to watch after grampas horse with his parents(note how he's not even being brought in to testify that he believes the horse is his). It just makes a very convenient excuse in court - makes grampa look like a good guy when really the kid is just a pawn in the game. It's scummy scummy scummy and I see it too often.

 

[MomtoSyd&Emma]

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Well, the thing I'm thinking is the man knew the horse was stolen(by his own words he admitted there was question) and stashed it there until he was sure.

They can't go after a kid for a stolen horse but he could have gotten in trouble for having it on his own property. (Think of it as being caught with a stolen radio in your car - maybe you didn't steal it - but they'd still arrest you in the meantime to be sure)

With that thought in mind, I somehow doubt the kid at any point /actually/ was told it was his horse. That he was told to watch after grampas horse with his parents(note how he's not even being brought in to testify that he believes the horse is his). It just makes a very convenient excuse in court - makes grampa look like a good guy when really the kid is just a pawn in the game. It's scummy scummy scummy and I see it too often.

I guess its just my Mom thoughts. I was given a puppy as a little girl, LOVED that puppy for about 2 weeks, then the pup was taken from me, as the man that gave it to me, didnt have his daughters permission, she came home from her business trip and came and took the pup. About a year later after he had been attacked and mauled she wanted us to take him back, my parents refused because he by then wanted to kill other dogs and they had gotten us another pup, but I never forgot that feeling. I just hope that Ro gets Max back today!!!!!!

 

[Chicky Tocks]

I've been silently watching this thread from the beginning and just want you to know that my prayers and well wishes are going with you today. I really hope you get Max back, AND that the guy you leased him to gets a nice long stay in jail, not to mention that he owes you a LOT of money for the past due lease agreement as well as court cost.

Go get em RO!

 

[Rin]

MomtoSyd&Emma :

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Well, the thing I'm thinking is the man knew the horse was stolen(by his own words he admitted there was question) and stashed it there until he was sure.

They can't go after a kid for a stolen horse but he could have gotten in trouble for having it on his own property. (Think of it as being caught with a stolen radio in your car - maybe you didn't steal it - but they'd still arrest you in the meantime to be sure)

With that thought in mind, I somehow doubt the kid at any point /actually/ was told it was his horse. That he was told to watch after grampas horse with his parents(note how he's not even being brought in to testify that he believes the horse is his). It just makes a very convenient excuse in court - makes grampa look like a good guy when really the kid is just a pawn in the game. It's scummy scummy scummy and I see it too often.

I guess its just my Mom thoughts. I was given a puppy as a little girl, LOVED that puppy for about 2 weeks, then the pup was taken from me, as the man that gave it to me, didnt have his daughters permission, she came home from her business trip and came and took the pup. About a year later after he had been attacked and mauled she wanted us to take him back, my parents refused because he by then wanted to kill other dogs and they had gotten us another pup, but I never forgot that feeling. I just hope that Ro gets Max back today!!!!!!​

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Yea, I can understand that horrible pain. It never gets easy, but kids need to know they wont always get what they want or in that case deserved more. That woman shouldn't be allowed dogs if she can't be there for the ups and downs and the thicks and thins. She should have just left it where it was loved. But, in that case I could understand. She dumped it on her dad while she worked, he got sick of it and decided she couldn't handle it so gave it a chance. She didn't agree with him, didn't see what he saw, and proved her irresponsibility later on - when it was just too late. Sadly though, that is life. Many many animals live with owners who don't deserve them and maybe you deserve the animal more but that doesn't mean you'd be right to take and keep it. It is still stealing even if you think you're doing what is right for the animal.

In THIS case though, I just somehow doubt that guy was going to give his grandson the impression it was his horse when he still seems to lack ownership enough he's not even made to testify at all to grampas explanation. It'd be one thing if grampa said he turned it over to the parents and now the kid is attached - in which case they'd go after the parents - not grampa over it. Grampa is just using the kid as a scapegoat. The kid probably has no clue /any/ of this is even going on right now and is simply having fun helping mom and dad feed grampas horse.

I mostly say this because I don't think the court or anyone would find it appropriate for Ropo to keep in contact with the kid on the subject no matter how well-intended she is and no matter how she does it. It could easily be seen as harassment or an attempt at turning the kid against his grampa. It's not worth it. Especially with no proof the kid is even attached to the horse. No letter to the judge. Nothing. It just seems like a cover and they aren't getting the kid involved because in reality - he isn't.

If it were me, as soon as I got Max back I'd be gone and that family would never ever hear or see me ever again. No arguments, no conflicts and everyone, even the kid, can move on with their lives. I guess I get a bit worked up whenever people suggest contacting the kid. Don't do it and don't ask to do it. If I were his parent I'd get immediately defensive and upset at the very notion.

 

[Reinbeau]

The cynic in me wonders if there even is a grandchild who was given the horse. I've always thought that was just a ploy for sympathy. These scumbags will stoop to anything to keep that horse.

 

[mom'sfolly]

Anyone know what time the court date is? I'm going to be gone a lot today, but I really want to know what goes down.

I'm betting on a June 16th court date because of something someone did or failed to do. Or a third recused judge. They seem to be trying to wear her down.

 

[lockedhearts]

mom'sfolly :

Anyone know what time the court date is? I'm going to be gone a lot today, but I really want to know what goes down.

I'm betting on a June 16th court date because of something someone did or failed to do. Or a third recused judge. They seem to be trying to wear her down.

From the local paper:

a May 13 hearing, scheduled to convene at 1:30 p.m.​

 

[schellie69]

keeping my fingers crossed all goes well in court today.

 

[Rin]

My fingers, toes, legs, arms and even hair are crossed for you Ropo!