Stolen Horse--Man is BACK in jail!

[Msbear]

I know you're just glad this is all over but, if it were me, it would be civil lawsuit time. This guy openly admitted to knowing this horse was under a lease agreement and openly admitted to attempting to cover up the fact that it was the same horse. He has lied in court and that has been documented and he has caused months to go by without justice being served because of him! Isn't that illegal? evading or conspiracy or something. Over these months, you have lost precious time with the horse that can never be replaced. How much do you lease him for? I would suggest suing him for that cost per month he had the horse + time off work + $1,000 pain and suffering. I have no doubt in my mind you would win. They don't pay out so easily for P&S anymore but, this case certainly warrants it.

My first move would be contacting an attorney to discuss the civil suit. You can take him to small claims court by yourself or the attorney could do all the work and he would charge his attorney's fees to the defendant.

Call and see what your options are... speak to the DA. I think they are all feeling your pain now and are the pot is hot!! It's your turn, REPO

 

[~*Sweet Cheeks*~]

http://tahlequahdailypress.com/local/x895849788/Judge-to-mull-decision-on-alleged-horse-scam-case

Local paper coverage. They posted my comment on the spot.

If anyone else cares to post, make sure you go to the paper through Google and not through the link above or they will think the same person is posting over and over.

 

[ebonyann]

~*Sweet Cheeks*~ :

http://tahlequahdailypress.com/local/x895849788/Judge-to-mull-decision-on-alleged-horse-scam-case

Local paper coverage. They posted my comment on the spot.

If anyone else cares to post, make sure you go to the paper through Google and not through the link above or they will think the same person is posting over and over.

I didn't see your post ???​

 

[~*Sweet Cheeks*~]

That's wierd - I'm seeing my post. Here it is copy/pasted:

Nancy - Olympia, WA wrote:

Max is a little closer to being returned to his rightful owner Mikeala.

The judge is going to go look at the horse, Max because Mr. Trammel stated that he doesn't think the horse he gave his grandson is Max afterall, but some other horse. What a joke! He's just stalling. Trammel says he doesn't want to take the horse away from his grandson. What he needs to do is teach his grandson right from wrong. He can get his grandson another horse. Trammel claimed early on that Max bucked and wasn't rideable anyway.

May 14, 2010, 3:33 PM

 

[~*Sweet Cheeks*~]

Did anyone read what Anonymous wrote to the newspaper?

Anonymous
What kind of horse is this that you would lease it to a person anyway? I have horses and would never even dream of leasing one out, could she not take care of it or what?? Maybe the horse is better off where it is now did anyone ever think of that? Does the horse have a tattoo in the upper lip? People always want to point fingers but this one is a little shady to me, here in Cherokee County not many horses are leased out, most people around here consider them to be part of the family.
May 14, 2010, 5:26 PM

This is my reply:

Nancy - Olympia, WA wrote:

This isn't 'shady' at all. The horse was leased in a town 2 hrs away. Stopped making payments after 3 months and moved out of town and sold the leased horse to his uncle.

It would be like leasing/renting a car, skipping town and selling the car to someone.

Leasing is very popular in my state of Washington.

May 14, 2010, 9:12 PM

 

[Rin]

~*Sweet Cheeks*~ :

Did anyone read what Anonymous wrote to the newspaper?

Anonymous
What kind of horse is this that you would lease it to a person anyway? I have horses and would never even dream of leasing one out, could she not take care of it or what?? Maybe the horse is better off where it is now did anyone ever think of that? Does the horse have a tattoo in the upper lip? People always want to point fingers but this one is a little shady to me, here in Cherokee County not many horses are leased out, most people around here consider them to be part of the family.
May 14, 2010, 5:26 PM

This is my reply:

Nancy - Olympia, WA wrote:

This isn't 'shady' at all. The horse was leased in a town 2 hrs away. Stopped making payments after 3 months and moved out of town and sold the leased horse to his uncle.

It would be like leasing/renting a car, skipping town and selling the car to someone.

Leasing is very popular in my state of Washington.

May 14, 2010, 9:12 PM

To tell you the truth, I was a bit confused about the whole horse leasing thing too. The horse is /still/ hers though legally and is loved very much by her I can see. I just don't personally get the whole renting a live animal thing - especially one you clearly do care about to go through this hell for him.​

 

[rodriguezpoultry]

The reason I leased Max was because I didn't want to lose the training he already had. My doctor said there was no way that I was going to be able to ride Max for a long time, at least until the bone set. So, I decided leasing him would be the best deal, for him and myself. I did not want him to not have a job to do to entertain his brain.

Leasing is fairly common through shows, a person wants to take a year off of showing their animal, but still wants the animal to get points to add to their record, so, they lease the animal (horse) to another shower with a written contract. It seemed like a good idea at the time...I just had no idea that this could even be a possibility.

You can bet that I will warn anyone and everyone from ever doing this ever. I'm also taking all of this as a lesson learned...this will never happen to me EVER again.

 

[MaggieRae]

Quote:
To tell you the truth, I was a bit confused about the whole horse leasing thing too. The horse is /still/ hers though legally and is loved very much by her I can see. I just don't personally get the whole renting a live animal thing - especially one you clearly do care about to go through this hell for him.

Leasing a horse is a great thing. When I learned to ride, I was in no way ready for the responsibility of owning or horse, or was I capable because I lived in the city and didn't have any country around me. I got to lease two lovely horses. I rode them half of the week, and their owners rode them the other half. I couldn't ride the whole week, so that worked out fine. The owners didn't have to pay the entire boarding fee, either, so that was good for them. I didn't have to worry about vets and I got the showing experience by going to shows with the owners. Then when I was ready to advance, I just quit leasing. There wasn't the fuss of having to sell the horse, or keep it and be stuck where I was at. Sure, I loved the horses and was sad to see them go, but had I not, I would never have bought the AMAZING horse I have now. He advances just as quickly as I do. He's always a challenge, but not a danger.

So I agree with the above poster, leasing is a WONDERFUL thing.

 

[MaggieRae]

Quote:
The reasons you stated for leasing were valid. Most people lease their horses to good friends, neighbors, and people they know well though. I'm sorry this happened to you. I never thought someone would just make off with a horse. It's a cruel thing to do when you think of the emotional attachment.

 

[Rin]

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See, THAT makes absolute sense to me hearing it put like that. It's absolutely HORRIBLE how this turned out and frankly I don't think you deserved any of it and neither did Max. I'm sorry something so horrible happened when all you really wanted was to keep max at his peak while you got better.

And I just realized my ignorance on the whole leasing thing might have come off attackish. I really honestly just wanted to understand it better. It's not that common here or where I grew up I guess as I've never even heard of it before now. It makes perfect sense to me hearing why though. Especially for people who can't ride their beloved horse as much as they'd like. Seems like a good thing to do to keep the horse exercised... like having someone walk your dog - only they pay you for it.