Its great that you took them in, you have a kind heart
Stray Dog is a LGD
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We got our Dusti in much the same way. Stray turned up pregnant, woman found homes for the pups --- and well, Dusti was one of them that we got! She is the absolute best dog ever (of course I might be a tad bit biased.....) ! She's the best guard dog!
What a wonderful deed. She has obviously proved her worth. I would take a rescued mutt over a pure-breed any day of the week. Dogs are relatively smart animals and rescued dogs seem to realize their new owner has improved their lot. I know the several I've rescued over the years seem grateful. On a scientific level, mutts are more diverse genetically and thus better prepared for survival. For the doubters, just look at the European royalty (both past and present) for the results of "pure-breeding". Louis XVI is a perfect example. Give me an American mutt any day.
Bear Foot Farm, I have to disagree with you. Deerman is correct. You said it's a matter of terminology, so let's see. The term is livestock guardian dog. First, it is a dog. Second, it guards livestock (chickens are livestock). Third, if it protects the livestock, it fits the definition of guardian. Some breeds have specific characteristics that make them good LGDs; however, that does not mean they are the only dogs that can be LGDs. It's sort of like saying only an Irishman can play the bagpipes. It's really a matter of skill, ability and innate sense.
Bear Foot Farm, I have to disagree with you. Deerman is correct. You said it's a matter of terminology, so let's see. The term is livestock guardian dog. First, it is a dog. Second, it guards livestock (chickens are livestock). Third, if it protects the livestock, it fits the definition of guardian. Some breeds have specific characteristics that make them good LGDs; however, that does not mean they are the only dogs that can be LGDs. It's sort of like saying only an Irishman can play the bagpipes. It's really a matter of skill, ability and innate sense.
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The puppy has definatley got german shepherd in it, ( a wonderful breed if ya ask me) the mama ??? I dunno but she is gorgeous....wish I could find one like that. If ya ever need to find her a home let me know 
) SHHHH dont tell hubby ;o)
) SHHHH dont tell hubby ;o)
This a great story! Luck you and lucky for the stray! Everytime a stray gets dumped on my road they make a bee line for the coop. I worry about stray dogs more than anything else. I get about 2 a month dropped off. I would rather shoot the person dropping them off but have yet to catch anyone. My Grandpa did once and he made them shoot the dog themselves, which was not something they were prepared to do. I am very happy your story has a great ending.
you have done a very good thing taking her and her babies in. buy that she is appreciative and is showing her gratitude and love by taking care of her new family and is teaching her baby to do the same thing.
i did not see what their names are. please share.
i did not see what their names are. please share.
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Looks like your good deed did not go unrewarded ! She may not be a LGD by breed but she is one by her actions and that is the true definition of an LGD as they are true working dogs. God bless you and yours and keep up the good work.
Looks like your good deed did not go unrewarded ! She may not be a LGD by breed but she is one by her actions and that is the true definition of an LGD as they are true working dogs. God bless you and yours and keep up the good work.
Around 12 years ago, the kids brought home a puppy that had been running the streets, and had been hit by a car. He wasn't hurt badly, and would have been fine without help. I told them the pup could not stay. Then while holding the pup on my lap, I fell asleep in the chair. The pup fell asleep in my lap.
Fast forward almost 10 years. The pup that couldn't stay was still here, but was now having major problems walking up stairs. He got to the point where we had to have him put down. That was a very hard thing to do, but the best thing for the dog. At the time, he was one of the best dogs we ever had. The one in my avatar *is* by far the best one we've ever had, and we've had many through the years.
Ed
Fast forward almost 10 years. The pup that couldn't stay was still here, but was now having major problems walking up stairs. He got to the point where we had to have him put down. That was a very hard thing to do, but the best thing for the dog. At the time, he was one of the best dogs we ever had. The one in my avatar *is* by far the best one we've ever had, and we've had many through the years.
Ed
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I named the mama dog, "Maggie." I named the puppy, "Sue." Maggie is also considerate of the chickens. She will not run through them but goes around them. I actually was looking out the window & saw her catch the opossum. She seemingly had left the tree and waited for the opossum to come down. Maggie came streaking across the yard out of nowhere, very fast, past chickens, geese & grabbed the opossum and shook it hard. The hens scattered across the place did not even look up. At that moment, it seemed remarkably odd to me that she could be so completely ferocious with the opossum right in the midst of the fowl all about her.
Maggie was in the city, literally, traffic, people & was negotiating a difficult life. I had seen her the previous year or so around (and she was not approachable). After she had her puppies, she was stuck in a place and could not run, She would chase people & dogs from the vicinity of the yard of the abandoned house where she had her puppies. The postal worker had phoned the city and reported they would not go back on that block until she was taken off the street. The City had received several other calls from people in the area about her. The City animal control officer had come out and darted Maggie twice but before passing out, she would quickly run far up under her abandoned house (and the puppies would move to her) and the officer could not and would not crawl to that far a reach underneath the house (it was belly crawl room only & a squeeze).
I had started taking her puppy chow & fresh water when I noticed she was searching for food everywhere in the neighborhood. My first visit, after I found where she was hiding her puppies, she came close to eating me up limb from limb. Once the first dish of food was left, that first day, she accepted the next few days with only growls which grew to her coming up and nudging me (and that was when I petted her). In the mean time, all this was happening with the City/ Animal Control & against the backdrop that I was getting ready to move from the City to the far-out country with acreage. Having failed to dart her twice, the City came out to shoot her dead. By this time, I was a week from moving, and she was letting me play and pick up the puppies. When they came out, I had just reached the point where Maggie would seemingly do as I asked. With rifle in the officer's hand, I begged him not to shoot her, that I would get her to go into a pen & keep her up until I got moved away. He watched as I got her to go into a dog pen my next door neighbor kindly allowed me to utilize until I moved. The ~5 wk old puppies were scared and ran under the house. I had to belly crawl under the house and get all 8 of them, one-by-one because I had to have a free arm to use on the ground to pull through the tight places. I got all of them out & penned them all for about a week. I found that Maggie would walk on a leash with no trouble. She got into my car with no fear. After we had moved the major part of our household to the new place in the country (after the first two truck loads), I moved Maggie & the puppies. The week I had them penned, I had taken the puppies to the vet and got them their shots, de-worming and all. Maggie just ran around and acted like she loved the new place and had that look like, "yes, this is my home." Soon thereafter, I adopted out the puppies. A good buddy had kept my chickens for me while we fixed our home up in the city to sell and during the showing so the chickens came after I got the first coop built and then the geese soon thereafter. When the chickens came, they were in cages and Maggie ran at them like she wanted to get them and I simply went over to her and said loudly, "NO!" She never bothered them again. I kept them in a run to confine them a few weeks and when I saw that Maggie acted like she was looking out for them and go after other animals, I began letting them free range. I have since hatched some Guineas and they are still little (4-5 weeks old but running loose with chicken hens who hatched them.
My pasture backs up to a National Forest and there is nothing but forest/deep woods behind me for miles. I have seen fox, coyotes,raccoons, turkeys, deer, rattlesnake (TimberRattler as big around as a rabbit, which I had to dispatch). I've heard Screech Owls, Great Horned Owls and seen & heard plenty of hawks (Red-Tailed, Red-Shouldered & Cooper's) -- The chickens go in their coop, the geese stay out but sleep in the open barn where Maggie usually sleeps. I hear Maggie barking through the night and she has the deep, loud bark of a bigger dog (Maggie is only 55 lbs). I've also seen her chase other dogs who wander on the edges of the property (and she attacked a neighbor's dog). Whether or not someone thinks it is improper for me to call her a LGD, she is serving the function but is probably more what I had in mind because she keeps the other kind of predator away from my home as well: human strangers. She has not bitten a human, but she certainly acts like she would. The Real Estate agent who sold this place to us wanted to come pick up her "For Sale" sign but she said, she'd heard we had a dog that will definitely bite. We took her the sign to her office.
probably more than any of you wanted to know & didn't mean to bore you. All this has happened since April, 2010. My guess is Sue was born sometime the first week of April.
Maggie was in the city, literally, traffic, people & was negotiating a difficult life. I had seen her the previous year or so around (and she was not approachable). After she had her puppies, she was stuck in a place and could not run, She would chase people & dogs from the vicinity of the yard of the abandoned house where she had her puppies. The postal worker had phoned the city and reported they would not go back on that block until she was taken off the street. The City had received several other calls from people in the area about her. The City animal control officer had come out and darted Maggie twice but before passing out, she would quickly run far up under her abandoned house (and the puppies would move to her) and the officer could not and would not crawl to that far a reach underneath the house (it was belly crawl room only & a squeeze).
I had started taking her puppy chow & fresh water when I noticed she was searching for food everywhere in the neighborhood. My first visit, after I found where she was hiding her puppies, she came close to eating me up limb from limb. Once the first dish of food was left, that first day, she accepted the next few days with only growls which grew to her coming up and nudging me (and that was when I petted her). In the mean time, all this was happening with the City/ Animal Control & against the backdrop that I was getting ready to move from the City to the far-out country with acreage. Having failed to dart her twice, the City came out to shoot her dead. By this time, I was a week from moving, and she was letting me play and pick up the puppies. When they came out, I had just reached the point where Maggie would seemingly do as I asked. With rifle in the officer's hand, I begged him not to shoot her, that I would get her to go into a pen & keep her up until I got moved away. He watched as I got her to go into a dog pen my next door neighbor kindly allowed me to utilize until I moved. The ~5 wk old puppies were scared and ran under the house. I had to belly crawl under the house and get all 8 of them, one-by-one because I had to have a free arm to use on the ground to pull through the tight places. I got all of them out & penned them all for about a week. I found that Maggie would walk on a leash with no trouble. She got into my car with no fear. After we had moved the major part of our household to the new place in the country (after the first two truck loads), I moved Maggie & the puppies. The week I had them penned, I had taken the puppies to the vet and got them their shots, de-worming and all. Maggie just ran around and acted like she loved the new place and had that look like, "yes, this is my home." Soon thereafter, I adopted out the puppies. A good buddy had kept my chickens for me while we fixed our home up in the city to sell and during the showing so the chickens came after I got the first coop built and then the geese soon thereafter. When the chickens came, they were in cages and Maggie ran at them like she wanted to get them and I simply went over to her and said loudly, "NO!" She never bothered them again. I kept them in a run to confine them a few weeks and when I saw that Maggie acted like she was looking out for them and go after other animals, I began letting them free range. I have since hatched some Guineas and they are still little (4-5 weeks old but running loose with chicken hens who hatched them.
My pasture backs up to a National Forest and there is nothing but forest/deep woods behind me for miles. I have seen fox, coyotes,raccoons, turkeys, deer, rattlesnake (TimberRattler as big around as a rabbit, which I had to dispatch). I've heard Screech Owls, Great Horned Owls and seen & heard plenty of hawks (Red-Tailed, Red-Shouldered & Cooper's) -- The chickens go in their coop, the geese stay out but sleep in the open barn where Maggie usually sleeps. I hear Maggie barking through the night and she has the deep, loud bark of a bigger dog (Maggie is only 55 lbs). I've also seen her chase other dogs who wander on the edges of the property (and she attacked a neighbor's dog). Whether or not someone thinks it is improper for me to call her a LGD, she is serving the function but is probably more what I had in mind because she keeps the other kind of predator away from my home as well: human strangers. She has not bitten a human, but she certainly acts like she would. The Real Estate agent who sold this place to us wanted to come pick up her "For Sale" sign but she said, she'd heard we had a dog that will definitely bite. We took her the sign to her office.
probably more than any of you wanted to know & didn't mean to bore you. All this has happened since April, 2010. My guess is Sue was born sometime the first week of April.
Great story! Not boring at all
I would love to meet Maggie and Sue, they seem like such great dogs! Beautiful! Glad things are and have worked out for you all. Nice family
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