Sumatra Thread!

[ramirezframing]

well done, at the show my sussex were in, there was only one Sumatra, and it was very poor. It had wattles and a small tail, and it wasn't a true size. It was more bantam than large.

My art teacher has got me booked in a art exhibition next month, And she told me that i should price my drawings at 45 euro. I was impressed with her pricing.

Hope you have fun at the art exhibition. You'll have to take pictures of your work to show us before you go. You didn't show any of your sumatras?

 

[championsumatra]

I love to do chicken art! these are several of my drawings. It's not as good as raph's.
Silver Phoenix.


white frizzle


Blue Sumatra


Some kind of chicken.

 

[Coop Scoop Boogie]

Yep, we had the dun and a couple blacks. The black hen took best of class in one show

Congrats FMP on the black hen doing well.......
would that give you more points with the APA?

 

[Coop Scoop Boogie]

well done, at the show my sussex were in, there was only one Sumatra, and it was very poor. It had wattles and a small tail, and it wasn't a true size. It was more bantam than large.

My art teacher has got me booked in a art exhibition next month, And she told me that i should price my drawings at 45 euro. I was impressed with her pricing.

I think your drawings are quite nice and you could probably sell
some but I have n idea for how much they would sell for there.

 

[raph]

You can see pictures of my drawings in my profile picture. I'll get photos of my drawings at the exhibition.

I didn't show any of my Sumatra's, the cockerel is moulting and has a long tail but the web on his sickle feathers isn't there at points. Really my Sumatra's aren't up to scratch, in the spring time i wouldn't mind buying hatching eggs, of off some of you guys. Would eggs survive shipping to southern Ireland from America?
A decent large Sumatra is hard to find here, and a blue Sumatra ...... well I haven't seen any bantam blue Sumatra's let alone large.
Who on this thread sells hatching eggs?

 

[raph]

I gathered some of my photos of my drawings from facebook.

 

[ramirezframing]

Raph, even if the eggs survive the trip, it might be illegal for any USA eggs to be shipped to you (import laws). Plus our sumatras go by a different standard then what yours do, so they will not do well at your shows. Your best bet might be to go to a few bigger shows over there and find some sumatras you like and see if the breeder of them might be willing to sell you birds or eggs. Do you have a sumatra association or a national club for them over there? They should be able to tell you where to look also. Good luck with your hunt. I have been on some that have lasted for years and all over the USA. If I was you, while you are looking, keep the ones you have and hatch all the eggs you can. Grow them out and cull hard according to your standard. This should help you really learn your standard for them and help you in picking out show/breeding worthy sumatras to buy. It should also help you learn how to breed to improve upon any birds you do get and also give you different blood from the ones you find. Once again good luck in this and your art.

 

[Coop Scoop Boogie]

I doubt the eggs would survive the trip and like Ramerizframing said
you to make the import laws and quarantine time for eggs coming into
your country. I'm fairly sure any packages going on a plane crossing
the ocean gets x-rayed to make sure they are safe and not a bomb and
the x-ray most likely kill the embryo. Good luck and I'm sure with a little
searching you find some good birds there. The more shows you go to
the better chances you will have of finding other breeders.

 

[Boggy Bottom Bantams]

No, international shipping actually is better on them than ourbloacl PO service here. They don't nuke em in x rays or nothing. People import here all the time. And do really well. On eggs they go straight to you to hatch IF they come from approved countries. Customs and all do visual inspections and the packages are checked when dropped off. You have to go threw a licensed broker to do it though. This is a government official who's job is to handle all this. The problem lies in all the paper work and permits on both ends. A US import permit last for about 21 days I think it is and will cost you about $2 grand! Then the same permits are needed on the sellers end overseas. Every disease known to man has to be tested for in the entire flock. If they pass then you are allowed to import. Birds are quarentined for 30 sick free days at $15 per bird per day. Add that up! Then add the $2000 permits and test on both ends, the brokers fees, and international air cargo fees... on eggs that you can take right home, you'd have $5000 in. Birds are ungodly....

This is the reason most don't import or export. Its not worth it unless its an extremely rare it nonexisting breed in your country. Once you have them, you'd have to do like green fire and charge absoultly stupid prices to make it worth it. Like their $5000 a pair cemani, which they didn't know had already been here for 15+ years.
I'd advise checking around the UK Ralf. There are quite a few breeders if them there . Sandra Hildreth there is a big Cochin breeder , but she has some nice Sumatra too from what I hear and she exports of

 

[Coop Scoop Boogie]

No, international shipping actually is better on them than ourbloacl PO service here. They don't nuke em in x rays or nothing. People import here all the time. And do really well. On eggs they go straight to you to hatch IF they come from approved countries. Customs and all do visual inspections and the packages are checked when dropped off. You have to go threw a licensed broker to do it though. This is a government official who's job is to handle all this. The problem lies in all the paper work and permits on both ends. A US import permit last for about 21 days I think it is and will cost you about $2 grand! Then the same permits are needed on the sellers end overseas. Every disease known to man has to be tested for in the entire flock. If they pass then you are allowed to import. Birds are quarentined for 30 sick free days at $15 per bird per day. Add that up! Then add the $2000 permits and test on both ends, the brokers fees, and international air cargo fees... on eggs that you can take right home, you'd have $5000 in. Birds are ungodly....

This is the reason most don't import or export. Its not worth it unless its an extremely rare it nonexisting breed in your country. Once you have them, you'd have to do like green fire and charge absoultly stupid prices to make it worth it. Like their $5000 a pair cemani, which they didn't know had already been here for 15+ years.
I'd advise checking around the UK Ralf. There are quite a few breeders if them there . Sandra Hildreth there is a big Cochin breeder , but she has some nice Sumatra too from what I hear and she exports of

Great info on the importing of eggs and birds. Of course I had
gotten some not-so-right info and it's what most of folks are told
about importing......probably to discourage anyone from trying to
import. Thanks for letting us all know