If you read the description instead of going by the pic you will see what I am talking about ones agian. A bird with a un full tail is not going to do as well as a bird that dose have a full tail it corrcet confomation and you can ask any of the top breeders that have actually earned the title grand master exhibitor, grand master breeder, and is well known around the country for champion lines.
I was looking on the American Sumatra Association on the showbirdbid site and what they where talking about is how important it is to keep the large fowl sumatra's big and the bantams small because a lot of birds they are seeing in the show room are under weight in the large fowl and the bantams where to big. so it is either you are going to small or you are trying to make me look bad in front of every single person who reads this thread.
Why is it that you think everyone is talking about you unless they quote someone else's post? This isn't the first time you have gone after someone else, getting mad at them for saying something that you don't like, when they did not quote you or even say your name.
If anyone is showing a bird they should/need to breed to that breed's SOP to the T! Not just the parts they want or like. You say this all the time.
YOU were the one that stated how big your birds were a few pages back, none of us were even talking about you. Than once everyone said that you were breeding birds that were too big for the SOP, since it clearly says 4 for hens and 5 for cocks and you had said your birds were 7 for cocks and one was even 8, you started going after everyone and saying that WE were ruining your breeding reputation.
I have to ask you how WE ruined it? WE didn't state how big your birds were, YOU did. Than you said that you didn't know how big they were since you don't have a scale, trying to save your reputation. I don't believe you, since you came on here and were able to post exact weights of them and you tried to force a point that they were of correct weight since they had won something.
Didn't you just yesterday say how one should not go by what is written on the internet, but in the SOP.
So if all the show sumatras are bred to the SOP's weight of 4 for hens and 5 for cocks, than when talking about a small/big bird, one would mean size of body/ height.
I would guess that the top sumatra breeders took in all the information on this breed when they were young and just starting out with this breed. Not from just one person or one place, but where ever they could. Alot of times this means sitting back listening to someone else do the talking, even if you might not agree 100% with what is said.
I do hope that you figure out one day that not everyone is talking to/or about you, and that we may in fact might be trying to HELP you so that you can improve the breed along your journey. That is what this thread is about, after all. Learning to improve the birds we have and sharing our love for them.
