Sumatra Thread!

[Infnityhrt]

It is interesting that the blues were accepted without accepting the splash
that is a product of breeding blues to blues. If I remember it right when I had
asked at a show I was at last year, asked a member of the polish breeders club
about a new color in the polish and he said it took a certain number of breeders
breeding the color for a certain number of years and a certain number of birds and
getting consistent results and then they could be shown under all other variety. Don't
know how true or if it applies to sumatras..........just sharing what was told to me.

Sounds right LOL. I think they are all accepted through the same process

 

[Infnityhrt]

I would love to see the duns get accepted before the splash, I just love the color, but I love chocolate, what can I say

 

[Coop Scoop Boogie]

I would love to see the duns get accepted before the splash, I just love the color, but I love chocolate, what can I say

I think the duns are gorgeous and would love to see good pics of khakis.......not sure
on them but I just may love that color too.

It just didn't make sense to me to accept a
color of bird but not the colors they could produce

 

[NYREDS]

I have heard that splash isn't accepted in the blue andalusians either. I am not 100% sure on that one as I don't show them.

No Splash Andalusians, no Blacks either.

 

[BGMatt]

[COLOR=008000]It is interesting that the blues were accepted without accepting the splash[/COLOR]
[COLOR=008000]that is a product of breeding blues to blues. If I remember it right when I had[/COLOR]
[COLOR=008000]asked at a show I was at last year, asked a member of the polish breeders club[/COLOR]
[COLOR=008000]about a new color in the polish and he said it took a certain number of breeders[/COLOR]
[COLOR=008000]breeding the color for a certain number of years and a certain number of birds and[/COLOR]
[COLOR=008000]getting consistent results and then they could be shown under all other variety. Don't[/COLOR]
[COLOR=008000]know how true or if it applies to sumatras..........just sharing what was told to me.[/COLOR]

APA and ABA are different. APA is a minimum of 5 people breeding for 5 years, a qualifying meet where 50 or more must be present and pass inspection. A standard must be drafted and approved before the qualifying meet. There is a application fee, and some minimums of birds that need to be exhibited in that time that I can't recall right now.

It does seem odd that Splash would not be recognized when the breed comes in Blue (indeed Black should be automatic in my opinion as well with Blue as well but is not in the case of the Andalusian and Plymouth Rock Large Fowl). The only breed that APA actually recognizes in Splash is the Silkie.

 

[Infnityhrt]

APA and ABA are different. APA is a minimum of 5 people breeding for 5 years, a qualifying meet where 50 or more must be present and pass inspection. A standard must be drafted and approved before the qualifying meet. There is a application fee, and some minimums of birds that need to be exhibited in that time that I can't recall right now.

It does seem odd that Splash would not be recognized when the breed comes in Blue (indeed Black should be automatic in my opinion as well with Blue as well but is not in the case of the Andalusian and Plymouth Rock Large Fowl). The only breed that APA actually recognizes in Splash is the Silkie.

Interesting, do you think maybe because splash is not really that consistent in color? I mean some have more black or blue feathers in them and some may be more white with some blue? I don't know, Silkies barbs don't hold feathers together so maybe don't worry about a consistent pattern as much? I don't know, just a thought

 

[Coop Scoop Boogie]

APA and ABA are different. APA is a minimum of 5 people breeding for 5 years, a qualifying meet where 50 or more must be present and pass inspection. A standard must be drafted and approved before the qualifying meet. There is a application fee, and some minimums of birds that need to be exhibited in that time that I can't recall right now.

It does seem odd that Splash would not be recognized when the breed comes in Blue (indeed Black should be automatic in my opinion as well with Blue as well but is not in the case of the Andalusian and Plymouth Rock Large Fowl). The only breed that APA actually recognizes in Splash is the Silkie.

yes.............the APA information sounds like what this person had told me..........
thank you for clearing it up and it's very interesting too. It sounds like even though
the blues produce splash it isn't consistent enough to be recognized???? I wonder
if there are enough breeders of dun sumatras to get them accepted?

 

[ramirezframing]

No Splash Andalusians, no Blacks either.

Thanks for this information.

 

[ramirezframing]

APA and ABA are different. APA is a minimum of 5 people breeding for 5 years, a qualifying meet where 50 or more must be present and pass inspection. A standard must be drafted and approved before the qualifying meet. There is a application fee, and some minimums of birds that need to be exhibited in that time that I can't recall right now.

It does seem odd that Splash would not be recognized when the breed comes in Blue (indeed Black should be automatic in my opinion as well with Blue as well but is not in the case of the Andalusian and Plymouth Rock Large Fowl). The only breed that APA actually recognizes in Splash is the Silkie.

Good to know. Didn't know that they actually recognized any splash colored breed.

 

[ramirezframing]

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Had to go feed the horses, and when I got back I got side tracked (which isn't hard to do anymore). But I just googled the red orpington and I think that they would probably look good in that shade of red, of course I love a ture dark mahogany red RIR. I know you had posted a picture of the khaki rooster before, could you post another one (close up)?