Sumatra Thread!

[jeremy]

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Legs get darker as they get older that's common in sumatras

That's what I thought too.

 

[Boggy Bottom Bantams]

yep some times the legs on mine come out a little pale , but yes do darken as they age though those 2 are mightly yellow.
The feathered leg in clean leg chicks comes from years back of who knows what being bred to them. Obviously we know these have been out crossed to something as dun is not a natural color for sumatras, so my guess is they used a dun feather leg bird to get the color into the line.
Could have been up to 10 breedings back, but somewhere doen the line, some one bred one if its ancestors to a feather legged bird, either by accident, or a project . That's the only way feather leg can get into a line, it has to be put there. Some times the fuzz will fall off as it ages, especially if it was introduced way back in the line. But it will carry the trait on to it's offspring. It's not the end of the world, but is something that needs to be bred out of the line. Choose some nice mates for them and shouldnt take long, looks minimal as is.

 

[jeremy]

So what colors will my Platinum bird produce when bred to a Black bird. Blues? Duns? More Platinums?

 

[Boggy Bottom Bantams]

never had one to work with myself.
I would assume knowing how the dun and blue works, and that it is made of both those 2 ,yes if bred it to black, should be 25% of all 4, platinum black blue and dun.

 

[gallo4319]

I have blue hen that i bred last year with a black rooster 80% of their offspring were blue.
I trew the hen back this year to another unrelated black rooster the result was the same,does that have something to do that she came from two
Blue parents?

 

[jeremy]

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I was thinking that Platinum, because it is the result of 1 copy of Blue & 1 copy of Dun, would throw only Blue & Dun chicks when bred to Black birds. Sorta how Splash will only produce Blue chicks when bred to a Black bird.

I don't know if I'm conveying my rationalization correctly...

 

[Boggy Bottom Bantams]

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no, just luck of the draw, the average on blue to black is 50 % each, but that's just an odds number, could be more either way, just depends on what genetics each embryo inherits.
You were just a little over averge on the blues is all

 

[Boggy Bottom Bantams]

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I was thinking that Platinum, because it is the result of 1 copy of Blue & 1 copy of Dun, would throw only Blue & Dun chicks when bred to Black birds. Sorta how Splash will only produce Blue chicks when bred to a Black bird.

I don't know if I'm conveying my rationalization correctly...

nope...
see both dun and blue only have 1 copy of their respective gene

spalsh and khaki have 2 copies

so when bred to black which has no copies, you have to divide the genes up, 1 bird cant past 2 copies over to their offspring

so yes if using splash or khaki to black, the babies will inherit 1 copy each making them all blue or dun

however with the blue and dun bred to black, there's only 1 copy to be shared. Some will get it, some the black will basically over ride it, so you can only get them or blacks out of it.

Now in the platinum case, it only has 1 copy each as well, 1 of dun and 1 of blue which makes platinum.
some will get the combo gene of platium, some will get only the individual marker for blue or dun, and some will be just black so in theory, it should breed just as a blue or dun does just with the addition of platinum in the mix

 

[jeremy]

Well that makes me even more excited to start breeding!

 

[gallo4319]

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no, just luck of the draw, the average on blue to black is 50 % each, but that's just an odds number, could be more either way, just depends on what genetics each embryo inherits.
You were just a little over averge on the blues is all

Thank you for clearing that up for me