Surviving Another Depression.......What Would We Need?

[mtnhomechick]

Looks like the world wide casino.............oops.......I mean the stock market is up today. Looks like something will pass after the Jewish holiday break. At least people are investing in that notion. Hmmmmm.

 

[cknmom]

I found this a few weeks ago while looking for supplies.The site I found it on is listed below. We have been pricing the most important things recently like a pump for the well (we have three generators also). We figure if we can have enough food,gas,diesel,and other neccessary supplies for all of us for at least 6 months we are doing fine. Oh yeah, we have PLENTY of weapons of different kinds and ammo.

100 Items to Disappear First
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This is from an e-mail, supposedly from a Sarajevo War Survivor.I have no way of verifing this but it is great advice.It gives an insight to what you might need if or should I say when we have the same problems here in the USA.

1. Generators (Good ones cost dearly. Gas storage, risky. Noisy...target of thieves; maintenance ect.)
2. Water Filters/Purifiers
3. Portable Toilets
4. Seasoned Firewood. Wood takes about 6 - 12 months to become dried, for home uses.
5. Lamp Oil, Wicks, Lamps (First Choice: Buy CLEAR oil. If scarce, stockpile ANY )
6. Coleman Fuel. Impossible to stockpile too much.
7. Guns, Ammunition, Pepper Spray, Knives, Clubs, Bats & Slingshots.
8. Hand-can openers, & hand egg beaters, whisks.
9. Honey/Syrups/white, brown sugar
10. Rice - Beans - Wheat
11. Vegetable Oil (for cooking) Without it food burns/must be boiled ect.,)
12. Charcoal, Lighter Fluid (Will become scarce suddenly)
13. Water Containers (Urgent Item to obtain.) Any size. Small: HARD CLEAR PLASTIC ONLY - note - food grade if for drinking.
14. Mini Heater head (Propane) (Without this item, propane won't heat a room.)
15. Grain Grinder (Non-electric)
16. Propane Cylinders (Urgent: Definite shortages will occur.
17. Survival Guide Book.
18. Mantles: Aladdin, Coleman, ect. (Without this item, longer-term lighting is difficult.)
19. Baby Supplies: Diapers/formula. ointments/aspirin, ect.
20. Washboards, Mop Bucket w/wringer (for Laundry)
21. Cookstoves (Propane, Coleman & Kerosene)
22. Vitamins
23. Propane Cylinder Handle-Holder (Urgent: Small canister use is dangerous without this item)
24. Feminine Hygiene/Haircare/Skin products. 25. Thermal underwear (Tops & Bottoms) 26. Bow saws, axes and hatchets, Wedges (also, honing oil)
27. Aluminum Foil Reg. & Heavy Duty (Great Cooking and Barter Item)
28. Gasoline Containers (Plastic & Metal)
29. Garbage Bags (Impossible To Have Too Many).
30. Toilet Paper, Kleenex, Paper Towels
31. Milk - Powdered & Condensed (Shake Liquid every 3 to 4 months)
32. Garden Seeds (Non-Hybrid) (A MUST)
33. Clothes pins/line/hangers (A MUST)
34. Coleman's Pump Repair Kit
35. Tuna Fish (in oil)
36. Fire Extinguishers (or..large box of Baking Soda in every room) 37. First aid kits
38. Batteries (all sizes...buy furthest-out for Expiration Dates)
39. Garlic, spices & vinegar, baking supplies
40. Big Dogs (and plenty of dog food)
41. Flour, yeast & salt
42. Matches. { Strike Anywhere preferred.) Boxed, wooden matches will go first
43. Writing paper/pads/pencils, solar calculators
44. Insulated ice chests (good for keeping items from freezing in Wintertime.)
45. Workboots, belts, Levis & durable shirts
46. Flashlights/LIGHTSTICKS & torches, No. 76 Dietz Lanterns
47. Journals, Diaries & Scrapbooks (jot down ideas, feelings, experience; Historic Times)
48. Garbage cans Plastic (great for storage, water, transporting - if with wheels)
49. Men's Hygiene: Shampoo, Toothbrush/paste, Mouthwash/floss, nail clippers, ect
50. Cast iron cookware (sturdy, efficient)
51. Fishing supplies/tools
52. Mosquito coils/repellent, sprays/creams
53. Duct Tape
54. Tarps/stakes/twine/nails/rope/spikes
55. Candles
56. Laundry Detergent (liquid)
57. Backpacks, Duffle Bags
58. Garden tools & supplies
59. Scissors, fabrics & sewing supplies
60. Canned Fruits, Veggies, Soups, stews, ect.
61. Bleach (plain, NOT scented: 4 to 6% sodium hypochlorite)
62. Canning supplies, (Jars/lids/wax) 63. Knives & Sharpening tools: files, stones, steel
64. Bicycles...Tires/tubes/pumps/chains, ect
65. Sleeping Bags & blankets/pillows/mats
66. Carbon Monoxide Alarm (battery powered)
67. Board Games, Cards, Dice
68. d-con Rat poison, MOUSE PRUFE II, Roach Killer
69. Mousetraps, Ant traps & cockroach magnets
70. Paper plates/cups/utensils (stock up, folks)
71. Baby wipes, oils, waterless & Antibacterial soap (saves a lot of water)
72. Rain gear, rubberized boots, ect.
73. Shaving supplies (razors & creams, talc, after shave)
74. Hand pumps & siphons (for water and for fuels)
75. Soysauce, vinegar, boullions/gravy/soupbase
76. Reading glasses
77. Chocolate/Cocoa/Tang/Punch (water enhancers)
78. Survival-in-a-Can
79. Woolen clothing, scarves/ear-muffs/mittens
80. Boy Scout Handbook, / also Leaders Catalog
81. Roll-on Window Insulation Kit (MANCO)
82. Graham crackers, saltines, pretzels, Trail mix/Jerky
83. Popcorn, Peanut Butter, Nuts
84. Socks, Underwear, T-shirts, ect. (extras)
85. Lumber (all types)
86. Wagons & carts (for transport to and from)
87. Cots & Inflatable mattresses
88. Gloves: Work/warming/gardening, ect.
89. Lantern Hangers
90. Screen Patches, glue, nails, screws,, nuts & bolts
91. Teas
92. Coffee
93. Cigarettes
94. Wine/Liquors (for bribes, medicinal, ect,)
95. Paraffin wax
96. Glue, nails, nuts, bolts, screws, ect.
97. Chewing gum/candies
98. Atomizers (for cooling/bathing)
99. Hats & cotton neckerchiefs
100. Goats/chickens
From a Sarajevo War Survivor: Experiencing horrible things that can happen in a war - death of parents and friends, hunger and malnutrition, endless freezing cold, fear, sniper attacks.

1. Stockpiling helps. but you never no how long trouble will last, so locate near renewable food sources.
2. Living near a well with a manual pump is like being in Eden.
3. After awhile, even gold can lose its luster. But there is no luxury in war quite like toilet paper. Its surplus value is greater than gold's.
4. If you had to go without one utility, lose electricity - it's the easiest to do without (unless you're in a very nice climate with no need for heat.)
5. Canned foods are awesome, especially if their contents are tasty without heating. One of the best things to stockpile is canned gravy - it makes a lot of the dry upappetizing things you find to eat in war somewhat edible. Only needs enough heat to warm , not to cook. It's cheap too, especially if you buy it in bulk.
6. Bring some books - escapist ones like romance or mysteries become more valuable as the war continues. Sure, it's great to have a lot of survival guides, but you'll figure most of that out on your own anyway - trust me, you'll have a lot of time on your hands.
7. The feeling that you're human can fade pretty fast. I can't tell you how many people I knew who would have traded a much needed meal for just a little bit of toothpaste, rouge, soap or cologne. Not much point in fighting if you have to lose your humanity. These things are morale-builders like nothing else.
8. Slow burning candles and matches, matches, matches.
9. More matches









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Monica

Don't forget a hand grinder for grain!

 

[mtnhomechick]

Excellent contribution.........THANKS!!!

 

[meriruka]

Looks like everybody's got it all covered. But I would add a sharp axe or two.

 

[morelcabin]

A note about plastic containers...on the plastic there is usually a number. The small plastic water bottles are #1...this is very low grade plastic with the most petro content. It goes up to #5 grade I think. Get the highest grade plastic you can find to store water in. (at least a #3.

 

[YeOleBroodie]

Also..
Store what you use and use what you store.

Even if something is on sale and you will not use/eat it..what good will it do you and your family. So try some before you buy a case load of anything.

Always rotate when restocking.

A good back up to preserving those frozen goodies would be important to have.
Genies are good but if you can't get more fuel...
Canning or dehydrating is my choice to avoid a freezer load of worry if the power goes out.

Also extra stove pipe if you are heating with wood. Never can tell how long a pipe will last and is good to have extras on hand.
Don't forget the pipe cleaner brush as well.

Hope that helps with some ideas.

 

[cub]

Quote:
Not here in Detroit. We have so many vacant lots, in my neighborhood alone we could/should have farms.

 

[ears73]

I suggest making friends with someone who processes grain.... Will trade eggs for flour!! I LOVE bread!

I also want to say that I think my skills (handed down from depression era father and german war survivor mother) would shine in a world with no strip malls or readily available "luxury" goods like Target and the like have to offer...... This might actually bring the people back together - at least the ones who are not living in cities and their immediate suburbs (agree that these will turn into hell on earth real fast) where murder and mayhem will ensue. If you go to the grocery store for everything you "need" to live, you will not be living long.

I am a fan of speculative fiction - anyone else read World Made by Hand or the like?? I am bored with life "high on the hog" -everything available at one's fingertips. The idea that the bottom would fall out from under carbon copied McMansions that populate suburban sprawl is oddly comforting.

 

[morelcabin]

Quote:
Two things scare me about a great depression...
1. I don't think I live far enough away from town
2. I don't quite know what I'm wishing for when I start thinking that going back to the dark ages may not be such a bad idea:>)

 

[Rhett&SarahsMom]

since I just got a JOB. YAY ME!!

I will be stockpiling over the next month.

We have a BJs membership that has already more than paid for itself in the gas price difference.
I cleaned out my basement and have already been putting canned and dry goods down there.

We got the chickens for the eggs(meat if we really have to) Am thinking of getting more chickens. We will see

I am also going to be buying more charcoal for the grill.

Getting seeds and will be planting a bigger container garden next year.