Surviving Minnesota!

[Bogtown Chick]

I'm back. Well actually was back yesterday. Unpacking and cleaning camping items.

Also I'm prepping my house for a couple of visitors from Illinois. They apparently want Bogtown to make them some lunch and look at the coop. I hope Mr. Segler doesnt laugh too hard. He, as a hatch-a-holic, hauled hatching eggs and an incubator hundreds of miles. He has an incubator of fuzzy cuddlers who will be Nannied out to yours truly while he builds his cabin. Okay. No problemo! As long as he take them back before he heads to Illinois. My chicken math knows we do not have the space.

Congrats MNChickMom on the Ribbons and prizes and sorry about blue combed Toad Kings. Shucks.

Tonight the birds got a venison steak that was a few days old. I have some bleached out looking older hens out there. The rooster has a barespot on his breast. And a raggedy tail. We have had quite a few rubber and brittle eggs. The Welsummer however looks great and is laying like a champ. I'm thinking she might be half naked at Christmas making me worry about her.

Sylvia's skin flap was torn off her head several weeks ago or a month ago probably. She bled ....but the bulbous piece of flesh was gone and I was a little bit glad for it even though it was a set back for over all healting Today her head has one white line for a scar and blood feather returning to her scalp.

 

[destiny_56085]

Good morning!
I had a gal come yesterday to buy my extra standard cochin cockerels. I knew her some had gotten faverolles from me before and loved that breed... So I sent the rest of my breeding pen along with her. 1 less breed... 6 bantam polish left and I can free up another pen.

A few years back I got into the exhibition type muscovies. Its pretty well known how muscovies normally generate LOTS of babies. Well not those big show type ones...Up until now I was lucky to get 2-5 babies out of them for the whole season. I was jumping for joy when a black hen came out of a nest from the back barn with 11 babies this weekend. Ralphie you might actually like these...they are nothing like normal ducks. They don't quack, they don't dig mudholes, they don't splash water out of a waterer the minute you fill it, they wag their tails like dogs when happy to see you, they have sharp claws and can fly so most predators don't tough them, AND when butchered, their meat is like veal.

I have the farrier coming sometime later this morning and I really have to go through and clean chicken pens again. Its day 11 without my 5 hour energy shots and I still have no ambition. At least the headaches are getting better from the caffeine withdrawal.

 

[destiny_56085]

You will need something, I am not sure if a vet is required or not. Best call 320-231-5170 (thats the poultry board) and ask them..

I think I have the info in one of my thousand books from them, but not sure where I might have stuffed that...It could be under my weight machine and the Appletini nest..

Technically to come in from out of state for a show you will need a pullorum test within 30 days I believe, an import permit on file with the state (which is good for a year), and a current CVI. The guys at the show are mainly concerned with the piece of paper that shows your birds are pullorum tested and probably won't even look at the rest... However if the state MPTL guys show up, then you might have to cough up more paperwork.

Now to sell birds into MN, there are its whole own set of rules too.... Stuff like hatching eggs and day old chicks can get away with an import permit and NPIP papers. Adult birds also need a PT and CVI... Turkeys are another ballgame completely...

 

[duluthralphie]

Good morning!
I had a gal come yesterday to buy my extra standard cochin cockerels. I knew her some had gotten faverolles from me before and loved that breed... So I sent the rest of my breeding pen along with her. 1 less breed... 6 bantam polish left and I can free up another pen.

A few years back I got into the exhibition type muscovies. Its pretty well known how muscovies normally generate LOTS of babies. Well not those big show type ones...Up until now I was lucky to get 2-5 babies out of them for the whole season. I was jumping for joy when a black hen came out of a nest from the back barn with 11 babies this weekend. Ralphie you might actually like these...they are nothing like normal ducks. They don't quack, they don't dig mudholes, they don't splash water out of a waterer the minute you fill it, they wag their tails like dogs when happy to see you, they have sharp claws and can fly so most predators don't tough them, AND when butchered, their meat is like veal.

I have the farrier coming sometime later this morning and I really have to go through and clean chicken pens again. Its day 11 without my 5 hour energy shots and I still have no ambition. At least the headaches are getting better from the caffeine withdrawal.

No more breeds, I am going down not up in numbers!!!

I really could use some of you with legbars showing oor sending your birds to Hutch. I thought I had enough pullets to fill the requirements myself. I don't. I checked my pulets last night to get an idea of what I have and which to pull out and put in cages.

I have only one Pullet left. They were in the pen that I lost the 96 from. I checked the younger ones, and I have none there either. But that's not surprising I tried to sex that pen. So it is mainly cockerels.


More fencing to do today. That and trying to figure out where I can get the legbars from.

 

[destiny_56085]

Section 2. Admission of Breed and Varieties
a. A petition for recognition of any breed or variety of any domestic or foreign breed must be sent to the Secretary, at least one year prior to the first qualifying meet, giving the history of its origin, breeding background, and with facts of an educational nature, all of which shall be preserved in the records of the Association. Included shall be the proposed name of the breed or variety with a standard for shape, color and weight, written in the same style and format as the Standard and included with the petition, with copyright assigned to the American Poultry Association, Inc. The proposed breed must manifest at least three (3) differences from existing standard breeds, this to be determined by the StandardCommittee. If a breed or variety had been accepted by the American Bantam Association before January 2007, a qualifying meet will not be required if the Standard Committee is satisfied through show reports from the US and Canadian shows, that 200 or more birds have been shown by at least three (3) exhibitors in the past three (3) years. If the description is in conflict with the description which was approved at a proper qualifying meet of the ABA, then the Standard Committee shall work with the Standard Committee of the ABA to remove the conflicts. Petitions for admission of breeds and varieties via this method will not be required to complete b and c of this section. If the breed applying for admission has multiple varieties, proof must accompany the petition that 20 or more birds have been shown in each variety in the past three (3) years by at least three (3) exhibitors. The total number of the birds shown in all the varieties must meet the required 200 total.
a. A petition is planned for submitting to the APA once we have fulfilled the requirements called for in the petition. A preliminary breed standard was voted into existance in 2013, and the standard is under revision with the standards committee currently.
b. Affidavits shall be included from not less than five (5) breeders, of 18 years of age or older, stating that they have bred the breed or variety for not less than five years and that it produces not less than 50% of all specimens reasonably true to type, color, size and comb. One of the five breeders will act as the spokesperson for the group and all correspondence will be between him or her and the Standard Committee. All five (5) breeders must be members of the Association before submitting the affidavit and must be members for a minimum of five (5) years before the first qualifying meet can take place.
Remember breeders that the requirement is that each breeder has been an APA member for at least 5 years prior to us holding a qualifying meet.
c. Certificates showing four (4) or more specimens have been exhibited in each class of cocks, hens, cockerels and pullets in each of the preceding two years at a show officiated by a licensed A.P.A. judge. The Standard Committee shall contact the judge for his or her confidential opinion of the quality and uniformity.
d. A deposit of a sum sufficient to defray the actual cost of placing the text in the Standard shall be received with the petition, which amount shall be returned in full in case of rejection.
e. The petition will then be referred to the Committee on Standards who shall name the two (2) qualifying meets, the first at a regional show and the second at the Annual Convention. The meets are to be at least one (1) year apart and are to be judged by licensed A.P.A. judges that will be approved by the Standard Committee. Such qualifying meets shall consist of not less than twenty-five specimens for a new variety and 50 specimens for a new breed exhibited by at least five exhibitors in equal numbers of cock, hen, cockerel and pullet. All exhibitors participating at the qualifying meet must be members of the Association at the time of the judging.
f. When satisfied of the breed or variety, the committee may recommend its acceptance, subject to final approval by the Board of Directors, upon which it becomes a recognized breed or variety.
g. No petition for subdivision of any standard variety shall be entertained by the Committee on Standards except Turkeys.
h. The Association recommends that the applicant for a new breed or variety of bantam apply for a joint meet for recognition with the American Bantam Association.
i. If the breed or variety fails to meet the qualifying standards another qualifying meet will not be scheduled for a minimum of six (6) months. An additional fee will be required to offset the costs of the added meet.

 

[destiny_56085]

Wow Ralphie... you really took on something ambitious with that project. I'm sure the show guy said sure to hosting it, but there is a lot more behind the scenes just to get a qualifying meet.

 

[duluthralphie]

Yep, we have done all of that, we are at the point of needing the qualifying shows.

I had thought I could make it with my birds (the 4 per class) but between thieves and predators I can't. We have some people coming I hope we get the numbers we need.

The Cream legbar club has ribbons and medals for the winners. I think there is some prizes too.

We are not even looking for great show birds. We just need birds that are not disqualified.





Oh and it is not just me, there is a whole board of directors helping me.

I have been trying to get ahold of Adrian, to see who the judge will be. I am hoping Diane, I have some things I need to get to the judge before the show.



The club board has been working with Walt Leonard who is advising us as to what step to take next...

Once the Cream's are in or nearly in the process will start over with the whites and lastly with the creole.

 

[destiny_56085]

I know its a LONG drawn out process!!!!!! After probably about 10 years of trying, they finally got the bearded white naked neck silkies (showgirls) into the standard last year. They also have groups trying to get the paints and blue creams in too. Varieties are hard enough, but whole new breeds...wowsers.

 

[BantyChooks]

Once the Cream's are in or nearly in the process will start over with the whites and lastly with the creole.

You're dedicated.

 

[duluthralphie]

I know its a LONG drawn out process!!!!!! After probably about 10 years of trying, they finally got the bearded white naked neck silkies (showgirls) into the standard last year. They also have groups trying to get the paints and blue creams in too. Varieties are hard enough, but whole new breeds...wowsers.

That is why Walt advised us to not try to get more than the creams in right now. After we get them in or close then the other colors...I was hoping for the whites to come n soon, but that is not to be. As you know, I love my whites.